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To: Toddsterpatriot

>> US savings rate doesn't include capital gains, but subtracts out capital gains taxes paid. It's not a perfect statistic.<<

No statistic is - but you got to have them, haven't you ?
So what does that mean 'gains not inlcuded' ? Are captial gains of one year counted in in the following year ?

>>US household is a wreck. <<

>> How so? <<

'cause you guys have a quite imbalanced household guess it's for "guns and butter" - I can tell because ours is only slightly worse and we have 5 socialist countries to feed.

>> So what? Our GDP grew about 3.1% last year, how'd yours do? <<

Ahh not bad either 2.5% - but we grew in Euro. ;-)

And you do know, that having some unemployed is good for business ?

>> Large parts of your economy were financed on subprime mortgages that are now imploding, taking the mortgage market for higher ranked loans with it.

And still we grew about 3.1% last year. <<


The subprimes imploded THIS year -recently - ok they are bouncing back a bit - but you may want to have an eye on them (google for abx bbb-)
trouble is that even the good rated loans are affected.

Come on - be honest - are you invested in the Dow or Nasdaq today ?






18 posted on 03/07/2007 7:56:42 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge
So what does that mean 'gains not inlcuded' ? Are captial gains of one year counted in in the following year ?

No. Capital gains are never included. In 2004, the IRS collected $151 billion in capital gains tax receipts. That money is subtracted from the savings figure. Capital gains rates vary from 35% (short term gains of high income individuals) down to 10% (long term gains of low income individuals). The most common rate is probably the 15% rate for long term gains.

The $151 billion in taxes was probably the result of around $1 trillion in capital gains. That $1 trillion was not included in the savings figure. The savings figure also ignores unrealized capital gains.

Do you think our capital gains might turn our savings rate into a positive figure?

'cause you guys have a quite imbalanced household guess it's for "guns and butter"

You mean federal budget not household?

I can tell because ours is only slightly worse and we have 5 socialist countries to feed.

Really? Yours is worse? What % of GDP?

As far as feeding socialist countries, we've been feeding yours for 60 years.

Ahh not bad either 2.5%

Wow, back into the single digits. It's been a while.

And you do know, that having some unemployed is good for business ?

So your huge unemployment must be great for business. LOL!

Come on - be honest - are you invested in the Dow or Nasdaq today ?

Of course. For decades.

19 posted on 03/07/2007 9:04:47 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Rummenigge
Ahh not bad either 2.5% - but we grew in Euro. ;-)

has become one of the slowest growing economies in the euro zone. A quick turnaround is not in the offing in the foreseeable future; however, stronger growth this year has improved employment considerably. Growth in 2001-03 fell short of 1%, rising to 1.7% in 2004, falling back to 0.9% in 2005, and increasing to 2.2% in 2006.

CIA Factbook

That's some nice growth you've had this decade. LOL!

22 posted on 03/07/2007 10:24:43 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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