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Democrat flunks his first intelligence test
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 13/12/2006 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 12/12/2006 10:48:57 PM PST by Mrs Ivan

The new Democratic chairman of a US congressional intelligence committee did not know what Hizbollah was and incorrectly described al-Qa'eda as deriving from the Shia rather than Sunni sect of Islam.

Representative Silvestre Reyes was flummoxed when a journalist rounded off a 40-minute interview by asking him two basic questions about the Islamic groups that are the principal targets of America's intelligence agencies.

"Al-Qa'eda is what – Sunni or Shia?" Jeff Stein, the Congressional Quarterly magazine's national security editor, asked Mr Reyes. "Al-Qa'eda, they have both," came the reply. "You're talking about predominately?" the congressman then asked, before venturing: "Predominantly – probably Shi'ite."

As Mr Stein noted in his subsequent column: "He couldn't have been more wrong. Al-Qa'eda is profoundly Sunni. If a Shi'ite showed up at an al-Qa'eda club house, they'd slice off his head and use it for a soccer ball."

He then asked the congressman about the terrorist group Hizbollah. "Hizbollah. Uh, Hizbollah..." he said, laughing. "Why do you ask me these questions at five o'clock? Can I answer in Spanish? Do you speak Spanish?"

The holes in his knowledge are a fresh embarrassment to Nancy Pelosi, the incoming Speaker of the House of Representatives, whose leadership was undermined when her chosen deputy was rejected by Democrats.

She selected Mr Reyes to chair the House intelligence committee over the head of Jane Harman, who is widely respected as having a firm grasp of the nuances of the Middle East. Miss Pelosi is said to harbour a long-time personal grudge against Miss Harman.

Mr Stein has been quizzing senior intelligence officials and politicians with similar questions for the past 18 months. In a similar gaffe-laden session, Willie Hulon, chief of the FBI's national security branch, did not know the difference between Sunnis and Shia either. "The basics goes back to their beliefs and who they were following," he said. "And the conflicts between the Sunnis and the Shia and the difference between who they were following."

So which were Iran and Hizbollah? With a 50 per cent chance of getting it right, Mr Hulon flunked by plumping for Sunni.

Congressman Terry Everett, a Republican and vice-chairman of the House intelligence sub-committee on technical and tactical intelligence, chuckled when he was asked the same question.

"One's in one location, another's in another location," he said. "No, to be honest with you, I don't know. I thought it was differences in their religion, different families or something."

When Mr Stein outlined the difference, which dates back to the death of the Prophet Mohammed in AD632, Mr Everett said: "Now that you've explained it to me, what occurs to me is that it makes what we're doing over there extremely difficult, not only in Iraq but that whole area."

Congresswoman Jo Ann Davis, a Republican who oversees the CIA's recruiting of Islamic spies, was also stumped when asked if she knew the difference between Sunnis and Shia. "Do I? You know, I should. It's a difference in their fundamental religious beliefs. The Sunni are more radical than the Shia. Or vice versa. But I think it's the Sunnis who're more radical than the Shia."

Mr Stein said: "This is basic stuff. We are not talking branches of Sunni. Congress's role is to oversee the intelligence agencies and make sure taxpayers' dollars are well spent but they don't know how to ask the right questions."

Islam split into Shia and Sunni sects after the death of the Prophet in AD632. What became the Sunni sect supported Mohammed's most trusted lieutenants as his successors, while the Shia believed that only his direct descendents should rule the Islamic world. Over the centuries the sects have divided further in areas such as prayer and Koranic interpretation, and who is the true leader of Muslims.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmicrats; durismart; wearealldoomed
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Oh dear.
1 posted on 12/12/2006 10:48:58 PM PST by Mrs Ivan
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To: Mrs Ivan

I don't think this will surprise anyone that Demwits have no clue about anything.


2 posted on 12/12/2006 10:50:44 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: Mrs Ivan

Pretty standard for Democrats.


3 posted on 12/12/2006 10:51:09 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Mrs Ivan

Jeff Stein was on H&C tonight. He said Pubbies are no better than Reyes and even FBI officials are stumped when asked these questions. Does everybody feel safer now?


4 posted on 12/12/2006 10:55:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: AZRepublican
I don't think this will surprise anyone that Demwits have no clue about anything.

The american people knew this and voted for the dems anyway

5 posted on 12/12/2006 10:56:08 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Mrs Ivan
But, hey, at least he's not a former Federal judge ("former" because he was impeached for bribery and perjury).

To the Dems, this is considered "progress" - that's why they're "progressives."
6 posted on 12/12/2006 10:58:27 PM PST by decal (Too many people mistake "tolerance" for "approval.")
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To: Mrs Ivan

Idiots all.

Perhaps watching Obsession, listening to former Muslims Walid Shoebat and (Kareem?) Saleem, and watching this Spencer video should be required.

http://hotair.com/


7 posted on 12/12/2006 10:58:41 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Mrs Ivan

Um, have the members of the Baker commission been quizzed?


8 posted on 12/12/2006 10:58:57 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: Mrs Ivan

Now we know why the demorats want to cut and run. They don't know where our troops are and want them home so then they'll think we believe that they have a clue about what they are talking about. Ain't going to work.


9 posted on 12/12/2006 11:00:34 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Mrs Ivan

Miss Pelosi is said to harbour a long-time personal grudge against Miss Harman.
Well then she needs to get over it. She is supposed to pick the person best suited for the job. I thought Fran Nan said she was going to do such a wonderful job. More dem bs as usual. I see a world of trouble ahead for us.


10 posted on 12/12/2006 11:04:28 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: pandoraou812

And I see trouble ahead for us and the world.


11 posted on 12/12/2006 11:09:11 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: A CA Guy
"Congressman Terry Everett, a Republican and vice-chairman of the House intelligence sub-committee"

But he interviewed a Republican too and he didn't know stuff that the average Freeper knows just by surfing the news each night.

What a bunch of losers. (We are doomed.)
12 posted on 12/12/2006 11:09:56 PM PST by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: sageb1

No doubt about it. Its frightening.


13 posted on 12/12/2006 11:11:15 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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"The new Democratic chairman of a US congressional intelligence committee did not know what Hizbollah was and incorrectly described al-Qa'eda as deriving from the Shia rather than Sunni sect of Islam."


This is incredible and should be trumpeted to all the people who voted in all those Democrats -- that we will be nothing but political appointments out of them and rampant incompetence which threatens the security of our country (apparently not a high priority for the Dems.....)
14 posted on 12/12/2006 11:11:51 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: Mrs Ivan
"The new Democratic chairman of a US congressional intelligence committee did not know what Hizbollah was and incorrectly described al-Qa'eda as deriving from the Shia rather than Sunni sect of Islam."

Representative Silvestre Reyes was flummoxed when a journalist rounded off a 40-minute interview by asking him two basic questions about the Islamic groups that are the principal targets of America's intelligence agencies.

"Al-Qa'eda is what – Sunni or Shia?" Jeff Stein, the Congressional Quarterly magazine's national security editor, asked Mr Reyes. "Al-Qa'eda, they have both," came the reply. "You're talking about predominately?" the congressman then asked, before venturing: "Predominantly – probably Shi'ite."

Why not just admit that you are on the intel committe but that you have no clue what you are talking about.

15 posted on 12/12/2006 11:14:59 PM PST by RoyStevens
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To: garjog

http://www.everett.house.gov/


16 posted on 12/12/2006 11:17:18 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Mrs Ivan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1751752/posts


17 posted on 12/12/2006 11:17:47 PM PST by upchuck (What's done is done. And if we don't get our stuff together, it'll be done to us again in 2008!)
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To: Mrs Ivan

People here in South America (Spain) are shocked by the relativity high level of ignorance!


18 posted on 12/12/2006 11:18:54 PM PST by kipita (Conservatives: Freedom and Responsibility------Liberals: Freedom from Responsibility)
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To: RoyStevens

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvestre_Reyes


19 posted on 12/12/2006 11:19:11 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Mrs Ivan
The old Pogo comic strip was so right, "We have met the enemy and he is us!"
20 posted on 12/12/2006 11:21:27 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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