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Scot Muslim compares Brits to Nazis
JTA - Global Jewish News ^ | December 12, 2006 | JTA

Posted on 12/12/2006 3:09:54 PM PST by DogByte6RER

Scot Muslim compares Brits to Nazis

One of Scotland’s most prominent Muslims compared the treatment of Muslims in Britain to that of Jews in Nazi Germany.

Osama Saeed compared the “sustained barrage of verbal abuse being aimed at Muslims” in Britain today to state-sponsored persecution of Jews in prewar Germany.

Saeed is the Scottish spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain and a former Scottish National Party candidate.

“Hitler was a product of German society, where anti-Semitic attitudes had existed unchecked for decades. We have got to listen and learn from what happened there and be vigilant,” Saeed said.

“I am not talking about large numbers of people being rounded up, but we could be looking at situations where Muslims are routinely assaulted in the streets.”

Murdo Fraser, deputy head of the Scottish Conservative party, expressed discomfort with Saeed’s comments.

“I don’t think it’s a rational response to compare the treatment of Muslims in today’s Britain in any way to the horrific treatment that the Jewish people suffered at the hands of the Nazis,” Fraser said.

“An approach of this sort will win no friends.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: british; cryingwolf; hate; holocaust; identitypolitics; islam; muslim; nazi; religionofpeace; rop
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To: DogByte6RER
Notice that this nutjob is a former candidate of the Scottish National Party, a far left wing party that advocates Scottish independence from the UK so that it can be blended seamlessly into the European Union.

Note also that the Scottish National Party is one of those leftwing European parties that American neo-Confederates and palaeocons are so fond of.

I say independence for England! Let the rootless Anglo-Saxon diaspora have an ancestral motherland!

I want my hyphen!

21 posted on 12/12/2006 4:00:55 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeYa`aqov 'ahav 'et-Yosef mikkol-banayv ki-ven-zequnim hu' lo; ve`asah lo ketonet-passim.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Argumentum ad Hitleranum.
22 posted on 12/12/2006 4:04:15 PM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: spinestein
I agree with this so far. We need to keep an eye out for any intolerant, hate filled groups which are calling for the death of all Jews and for the extermination of all religions and belief systems except their own.

Unfortunately for your position, that's all the relgions except the eastern ones and (ironically) the pre-islamic Iranian ones. Do you want to outlaw the belief of each religion that in the end it will be found to have been the correct one?

Funny how seculars insist on seeing Jews as symbols of tolerance and secularism. According to Torah, every human being born into the world is statutorily obligated by either the entire Torah (in the case of Jews) or the Seven Noachide Laws (in the case of non-Jews). In fact, when Mashiach comes he will finally bring this about. You want to arrest him?

People who think Judaism teaches the values of the "enlightenment" should read the Book of Joshua.

23 posted on 12/12/2006 4:07:19 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeYa`aqov 'ahav 'et-Yosef mikkol-banayv ki-ven-zequnim hu' lo; ve`asah lo ketonet-passim.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Do scotch muslims wear kilts?


24 posted on 12/12/2006 4:11:34 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: SandRat
If he's a Muslim he's NO SCOT!

That's an interesting point. However, white European leftwing movements like the SNP, the IRA, the SNLA, etc., are in a bit of a quandary. They all define their nationhood against something (in the case of the Celts, against England) and love to invoke all the mystical ancestral themes, but they also loudly condemn racism, any move to limit third world immigration, and trumpet their fraternal relations with third world leftist national liberation movements.

The Scottish National Liberation Army is a Maoist group that has threatened to run every "English" person out of Scotland (even though the Angles were in Scotland before the Scots were). I doubt they have a similar policy against any other "immigrant" group.

25 posted on 12/12/2006 4:12:10 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeYa`aqov 'ahav 'et-Yosef mikkol-banayv ki-ven-zequnim hu' lo; ve`asah lo ketonet-passim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I think you may have misunderstood my point so allow me to state it more simply: We should be wary of intolerent groups who want to exterminate other groups based upon philosophical differences.

Or even "Live and let live, but if they try to kill us then we need to fight to the death."


26 posted on 12/12/2006 4:21:57 PM PST by spinestein (There is no pile of pennies so large that I won't throw two more on top.)
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To: SandRat

WWWWD, What would Willam Wallace Do?


27 posted on 12/12/2006 4:45:18 PM PST by FNG
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To: FNG

More than paint his face Blue and lift his Tartan to show his BUM I suspect.


28 posted on 12/12/2006 4:51:24 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: DogByte6RER

WRONG, get a clue, Mr. Osama Saeed!!

The best contemporary comparisons to the Nazis all come out of the Moooooslim world, thank you.

Not all Muslims are Nazis, maybe, but almost all contemporary Nazis are Muslims.

Ooops, was that politically incorrect?


29 posted on 12/12/2006 5:28:22 PM PST by Enchante (America-haters and Terrorists Around the World Embrace Chamberlain Democrats)
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To: spinestein
I think you may have misunderstood my point so allow me to state it more simply: We should be wary of intolerent groups who want to exterminate other groups based upon philosophical differences.

Or even "Live and let live, but if they try to kill us then we need to fight to the death."

Mmmmmmmmkay . . . just so long as that doesn't apply to Mashiach HaMelekh!

30 posted on 12/12/2006 5:57:40 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeYa`aqov 'ahav 'et-Yosef mikkol-banayv ki-ven-zequnim hu' lo; ve`asah lo ketonet-passim.)
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To: windsorknot

Hitler based a lot of his propaganda on the Islamic model.


31 posted on 12/12/2006 5:59:17 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: SandRat
"If he's a Muslim he's NO SCOT!"

That's for damn sure! From a scottish lass!
32 posted on 12/12/2006 6:29:57 PM PST by jhw61
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To: DogByte6RER
Thanks, need some help here: There was a post (which I failed to save) that detailed the effects on a country given X% muslim population. 1% peaceful minority. 2%... and so on.

Any assistance appreicated.

33 posted on 12/12/2006 6:36:18 PM PST by RKM
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To: Zionist Conspirator
[just so long as that doesn't apply to Mashiach HaMelekh!]



I really don't know what you're saying (I assume you aren't being sarcastic). If not, I'm trying to understand, so please simplify it for me.

Mashiach HaMelekh refers to the "Messiah King", Jesus, right? So when I said "Live and let live, but if they try to kill us then we need to fight to the death.", you're saying this shouldn't apply to Christianity. Am I close? Help me out here. {;^)
34 posted on 12/12/2006 6:51:41 PM PST by spinestein (There is no pile of pennies so large that I won't throw two more on top.)
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To: DogByte6RER
"Muslims are routinely assaulted in the streets"

Name one instance?

How about the number of non-Muslims killed and tortured in the streets by Muslims? How is this like antisemitism?
35 posted on 12/12/2006 6:54:06 PM PST by Porterville (Fight without rules. Fight until only one side stands.)
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To: DogByte6RER; SJackson

<< Osama Saeed compared the (so-called) "sustained barrage of verbal 'abuse'" being aimed at Muslims in Britain today to state-sponsored persecution of Jews in prewar Germany. >>

Notwithstanding this loathsome creature's analogy is a sick twisting of the facts of the matter and is utterly despicable, on second thoughts, we should be so lucky.

(For if ever there was a cancer upon the Earth that needed radical removal, islamanazism is surely it)


36 posted on 12/12/2006 9:49:07 PM PST by Brian Allen (B. Hussein bin B Hussein bin Hussein Obama is to Christianity what Michael Jackson is to hetrosexual)
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To: DogByte6RER
"Scot Muslim compares Brits to Nazis "

The rest of the world compares Muslims to cockroaches. Their ability to reason is the same.
37 posted on 12/13/2006 7:19:07 AM PST by monday
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To: spinestein
Mashiach HaMelekh refers to the "Messiah King", Jesus, right? So when I said "Live and let live, but if they try to kill us then we need to fight to the death.", you're saying this shouldn't apply to Christianity. Am I close? Help me out here. {;^)

You're very confused, aren't you?

Mashiach HaMelekh is the long-prophesied Davidic King who will return all Jews to Israel, rebuild the Holy Temple, and impose the Kingdom of G-d over the entire earth. Does this sound like J*sus to you? If it does then you are very ignorant about chr*stianity, which insists that the messiah came 2000 years ago and that the "kingdom of G-d" is the church. And if this doesn't sound like chr*stianity to you, then I'm afraid you're only familiar with the "Bible chr*stianity" of the American Heartland, which isn't historical chr*stianity at all.

Have you ever considered the possibility that G-d just might be factual rather than an abstract concept clothed in quaint ethno-cultural mythology? The factual G-d isn't bound by the "enlightenment" or the First Amendment. Eventually He will triumph. As a matter of fact, in theory all humanity is already statutorily obligated to observe His laws, which include a ban on all false religions (which include islam and chr*stianity).

It's obvious from what you write and from the information on your home page that you know very little about Torah. Why else would you think Mashiach HaMelekh is J*sus?

38 posted on 12/13/2006 8:27:14 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeYa`aqov 'ahav 'et-Yosef mikkol-banayv ki-ven-zequnim hu' lo; ve`asah lo ketonet-passim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
You don't really need the apostrophe in J*sus if you don't associate Him with divinity, do you?
39 posted on 12/13/2006 8:35:15 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (Islam... if ya can't join 'em, beat 'em.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; SpinnerWebb
p>Mashiach HaMelekh is the long-prophesied Davidic King who will return all Jews to Israel, rebuild the Holy Temple, and impose the Kingdom of G-d over the entire earth. Does this sound like J*sus to you?

Sure does, only it's:

not all Jews but, rather, Abraham's seed (Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness.) and they are being returned to God ... which they can do now because their sins have been forgiven.

the "Holy Temple" isn't a brick and mortar building .. and

He didn't impose the Kingdom of God (the most accurate translation of "Kingdom" is "Rule"), He proclaimed it and demonstrated it. Every knee will bow next time.

Biblical Christianity asserts that there is a glorified human being, the firstborn from the dead, sitting on the throne of God .. at the right hand of the Father (See Psalm 8)

40 posted on 12/13/2006 9:32:34 AM PST by tx_eggman (Democrat Campaign Slogan - 2006: "Bring Out The Gimp!")
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