Posted on 12/12/2006 7:37:39 AM PST by Small-L
The L party is nothing but a straw man useful when conservatives want to bash libertarian principles.
Read a book some time why doncha?
Libertarians support states banning it
abortion
Libertarians support states banning it & no taxpayer funding of it
and ruining the economy by restricting world-market trade
Are you kidding? Libertarians support free trade without the globalist organizations running it
The Gipper didn't campaign as a "compassionate conservative" or to make America a "kinder, gentler nation" or spout nonsense like "a thousand points of light." And when he said "no new taxes," he meant it (as opposed to his "read my lips" successor). .....even while he was fighting with a Democrat majority in both Houses, vetoing every piece of big gov't legislation they threw his way.
The GOP has been yellow-bellied for way too long now.
As long as the Republicans or Conservatives or whatever they/we are calling ourselves these days keep blaming Libertarians for their losses. . .guess what?
Very good point. I suspect this is because libertarianism by definition is completely meaningless unless it is implemented in its entirety. Anything short of a 100% libertarian system is dysfunctional by definition.
I use the example of the "selective libertarian" to make this point. He's the guy who insists -- based on his libertarian principles -- that the government has no business outlawing drugs, but then turns around and calls on the government to expand drug treatment programs for people who "need them."
It is the party of about 10 people that has fraudulently appropriated the name. Libertarian principles are embraced by millions.
consider it a modern interpritation analogous to what the Democrat Party has become. The Democrat Party was not always a refuse and a haven for the communist, hedonist, or socialist. This a a very recent development.
Likewise the classical libertarian is long dead from the modern political scene.
Ah, I see. We're a bunch of riff-raffs trying to crash your $5,000-a-plate sponsored by some internationalist.
Their continual whining about the glass only being 30% full merely gives the Democrats political attacks "bi partisan" credibility.
In other words, you're afraid of good-old fashioned debate and the introduction of new ideas. No wonder why the GOP lost in November. Same old country-club status-quo. How many times did Bush mention the WOT & "extending" the tax cuts when campaigning for other Republicans? What happened to that Ownership Society? What happened to "local control" of schools during his 2000 acceptance speech?
We would be FAR better off if the losers simply LEFT. THEY cannot be politically relevant outside the GOP.
Yep, we're not fit to join your club but we damn sure better haul our ass to the voting booth and vote Republican, or else...we'll get called "Loserdopians" again! Now I know how a battered wife feels like.
Their are not enough of them to even win a single elected office ANYWHERE.
There are dozens of Libertarians elected to political offices nationwide. Most of these Libertarians ran on shoestring budgets, using their own money & their own time and basically relying on a website to get their message out. We don't have taxpayer-funded donations from the RNC or the DNC & the MSM to help us.
I agree that that description fits a "liberal," but not a libertarian. Or shouldn't.
I will say that there is some common ground between "liberals" and libertarians - both allege respect and support for individual freedom and personal liberty. "Liberals" undercut themselves on those principles by also supporting leftwing ideals and big government powers, which are inherently totalitarian. Libertarians undercut themselves by overemphasizing all sorts of superficial screwball causes, like drug legalization, while underemphasizing the important core aspects of their ideals, individual freedom and limited government.
Nevertheless, the libertarian ideal, that goverment's primary purpose is to protect liberty, comes closest to the ideals of our founding fathers of all modern political philosphies, and is thus in reality, the most "conservative" of them.
Would you advise someone to read the Republican Party platform to learn what a republic is?
We would be FAR better off if the losers simply LEFT.
yeah.............
I think you got your wish last month.
"Would you advise someone to read the Republican Party platform to learn what a republic is?"
Yes I would! Everyone should read the platform of any party they are going to hitch their wagon to, or vote for.
If you agree with most but not all, its up to you to work within that party to change/correct it.
I didn't ask about whether you would do it to see if you wanted to join the party. Buy you knew that.
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