Posted on 12/10/2006 10:04:01 PM PST by neverdem
I don't know how dishonest the authors are, but I would be surprised to find any informed libertarian that wanted to fund with taxes embryonic stem cell research. Results so far is without any clinical utility.
Free Republic now is just a popular chat site. And that's really a pity, because we have a lot of like minded folks who could do something, but they just 'don't have the time'. Free Republic used to be a do something site, not a bitch and moan site.
Some chapters are still "doing good work." I miss San Diego for that reason and I applaud and thank my San Diego FRiends for their continued good FReeps.
You have FR mail.
Should the Conservatives in NY State stay home too, or should they vote for the likes of Bloomberg, Giuliani and Pataki?
What happened to the FR network? where is all the chapter work?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Uh, Jeff, I attacked the big-L Libertarian voters.
And I attacked them because they cost us Senate seats, not for their beliefs.
The war on guns: Joel Miller explains how drug cops are killing 2nd Amendment
Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]
The war on some drugs is as effective as alcohol prohibition and funds islamofascists.
Aside from the D.C. chapter and their GOOD work every Friday night at Walter Reed, the Fresno chapter and an occasional San Diego FReep, I can't name any others. Pitiful, huh?
Historical Party Strength in Congress U.S. Senate
Historical Party Strength in Congress U.S. House
As if anyone on this board other than us long timers really care about the history of politics. Look at the FDR years, they had at times over 2/3rds in the senate:
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1933-1935 1935-1937 1937-1939 1939-1941 1941-1943 1943-1945 |
73rd 74th 75th 76th 77th 78th |
D D D D D D |
60 69 76 69 66 58 |
R R R R R R |
35 25 16 23 28 37 |
1 2 4 4 2 1 |
F.Roosevelt (D) F.Roosevelt (D) F.Roosevelt (D) F.Roosevelt (D) F.Roosevelt (D) F.Roosevelt (D) |
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1945-1947 1947-1949 1949-1951 1951-1953 1953-1955 1955-1957 |
79th 80th 81st 82nd 83rd 84th |
D R D D R D |
56 51 54 49 48 48 |
R D R R D R |
38 45 42 47 47 47 |
1 - - - 1 1 |
F.Roosevelt (D) Truman (D) Truman (D) Truman (D) Eisenhower (R) Eisenhower (R) |
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1957-1959 1959-1961 1961-1963 1963-1965 1965-1967 1967-1969 |
85th 86th 87th 88th 89th 90th |
D D D D D D |
49 65 65 67 68 64 |
R R R R R R |
47 35 35 33 32 36 |
1 1 1 1 1 1 |
Eisenhower (R) Eisenhower (R) Kennedy (D) Kennedy (D) L.Johnson (D) L.Johnson (D) |
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1969-1971 1971-1973 1973-1975 1975-1977 1977-1979 1979-1981 |
91st 92nd 93rd 94th 95th 96th |
D D D D D D |
57 54 56 60 61 58 |
R R R R R R |
43 44 42 37 38 41 |
- 2 2 3 1 1 |
Nixon (R) Nixon (R) Nixon(R) Ford (R) Carter (D) Carter (D) |
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1981-1983 1983-1985 1985-1987 1987-1989 1989-1991 1991-1993 |
97th 98th 99th 100th 101st 102nd |
R R R D D D |
53 55 53 55 54 56 |
D D D R R R |
46 45 47 45 46 44 |
1 - - - - - |
Reagan (R) Reagan (R) Reagan (R) Reagan (R) GHW Bush (R) GHW Bush (R) |
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1993-1995 1995-1997 1997-1999 1999-2001 2001-2003 2003-2005 |
103rd 104th 105th 106th 107th 108th |
D R R R D R |
57 52 55 55 50 51 |
R D D D R D |
43 48 45 45 49 48 |
- - - - 1 1 |
Clinton (D) Clinton (D) Clinton (D) Clinton (D) G.W. Bush (R) G.W. Bush (R) |
But take a look at the house in that same era. There were only two GOP terms up til 1994, and one congress was pretty slim. And add to the fact that FDR created a welfare country. Well, is it any wonder we are battling for conservative values today, when even the republicans don't know what real limited government is? Especially look where we've come since 1937. And people on FR think this is going to be a piece of cake when historical data indicates otherwise. In other words, getting a real majority of conservative republicans can be done in 6 years is a pipe dream. It's going to take a LONG time. And what have you done do advance conservativism, other than post on a chat site?
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1933-1935 1935-1937 1937-1939 1939-1941 1941-1943 1943-1945 |
73rd 74th 75th 76th 77th 78th |
D D D D D D |
313 322 334 262 267 222 |
R R R R R R |
117 103 88 169 162 209 |
5 10 13 4 5 4 |
F.Roosevelt (D) F.Roosevelt (D) F.Roosevelt (D) F.Roosevelt (D) F.Roosevelt (D) F.Roosevelt (D) |
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1945-1947 1947-1949 1949-1951 1951-1953 1953-1955 1955-1957 |
79th 80th 81st 82nd 83rd 84th |
D R D D R D |
242 246 263 235 221 232 |
R D R R D R |
191 188 171 199 213 203 |
2 1 1 1 1 - |
F.Roosevelt (D) Truman (D) Truman (D) Truman (D) Eisenhower (R) Eisenhower (R) |
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1957-1959 1959-1961 1961-1963 1963-1965 1965-1967 1967-1969 |
85th 86th 87th 88th 89th 90th |
D D D D D D |
234 283 263 259 295 247 |
R R R R R R |
201 153 174 176 140 187 |
- 1 - - - - |
Eisenhower (R) Eisenhower (R) Kennedy (D) Kennedy (D) L.Johnson (D) L.Johnson (D) |
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1969-1971 1971-1973 1973-1975 1975-1977 1977-1979 1979-1981 |
91st 92nd 93rd 94th 95th 96th |
D D D D D D |
243 255 242 291 292 277 |
R R R R R R |
192 180 192 144 143 158 |
- - 1 - - - |
Nixon (R) Nixon (R) Nixon(R) Ford (R) Carter (D) Carter (D) |
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1981-1983 1983-1985 1985-1987 1987-1989 1989-1991 1991-1993 |
97th 98th 99th 100th 101st 102nd |
D D D D D D |
242 269 253 258 260 267 |
R R R R R R |
192 166 182 177 175 167 |
1 - - - - 1 |
Reagan (R) Reagan (R) Reagan (R) Reagan (R) GHW Bush (R) GHW Bush (R) |
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1993-1995 1995-1997 1997-1999 1999-2001 2001-2003 2003-2005 |
103rd 104th 105th 106th 107th 108th |
D R R R R R |
258 230 228 223 221 229 |
R D D D D D |
176 204 206 211 212 204 |
1 1 1 1 2 1 |
Clinton (D) Clinton (D) Clinton (D) Clinton (D) G.W. Bush (R) G.W. Bush (R) |
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2005-2007 |
109th |
R |
232 |
D |
202 |
1 |
G.W. Bush (R) |
Ouch! That'll leave a mark. Nice post!
Now, there's a worthy post and it deserves a thread of its own! Excellent post and research. Thank you, Indy!!!!
BTTT
Why you would attack a Libertarian voter for not voting for the Republican party is unclear.
The only reason why libertarians and members of the Libertarian party ever vote Republican is because they feel like positives of the fiscal conservative aspect of the party outweigh the negatives of its theocon side.
Unfortunately, over the last 6 years the GOP has become less and less fiscally conservative and began catering more and more to theocons.
The GOP being expecting libertarian voters is like an unattractive, unemployed guy being upset because a girl doesn't choose to be with him.
Sorry, it is what it is. You see it too.
I know NY Rockefeller Pubbie history quite well. Thank you. That's why NY's Conservative Party was started. They had some successes. The RINOs is in NY have always been too smart by half. Now NY has become doomed by demographics, immigration into and emigration from NY to points south and west. The overall state poulation hasn't changed much in decades, a little over 18 million. I'm not voting for pubbies that want un-Constitutional laws.
What a fabulous idea!!
Did you even bother to read my post? Prime example of the failure of Free Republic.
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