Posted on 12/10/2006 10:04:01 PM PST by neverdem
you wrote:
The druggies, like the sex perverts, can only perpetuate an ever increasing market for their filth by molesting the minds and bodies of the young ones.
Recreational drug use has been chemical warfare waged against the young people of this country since the 1960s...
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I don't do drugs. But I would be willing to bet that we both drink beer. Think about this.
When they came for the employees of the oldest profession in the world, I did not speak out, as I had no interest in purchasing sex.
When they came for the purveyors of what was deemed to be "obscene" or "offensive", I did not speak out, as I was not a fan of entertainers like Lenny Bruce or Howard Stern.
When they came to ban the female mammary gland from TV, I did not speak out, because Brian Boitano told me not to.
When they came for the people who don't wear seatbelts, I did not speak out, as I always wore my seatbelt.
When they came for the marijuana smokers, I did not speak out, as I was not a marijuana smoker.
When they came for the steroid users, I did not speak out, as I was not a steroid user.
When they came for the gamblers, I did not speak out, as I was not a gambler.
When they came for the cigarette smokers, I did not speak out, as I was not a smoker.
When they came for the overweight and the obese, I did not speak out, as I was not overweight or obese.
When they came for the drinkers (again), I did not speak out, as I was not a drinker.
Then they came for me...and there was nobody left to speak out.
I agree 100%. That was a peripheral part of my post.
I don't expect the GOP to take back the House for another decade or more, and then lots of stuff have to align against them like it did in 1994, and against us in 2006.
I'll read it when I get the chance, probably later this week. Thanks for sharing it!
The party and its elected officials don't mock and denigrate you, or they rarely do. A few powerless party loyalists, like me, mock and denigrate you. Rightly, because you mock and denigrate the party, and put your country in danger by letting Democrats win. No halfway intelligent Republican expects "subservience" from you people. We do expect rationality and believe strongly that you ought to vote for us. I don't consider myself "subservient" to the party just because I vote for it and see no other option.
I don't expect the GOP to take back the House for another decade or more, and then lots of stuff have to align against them like it did in 1994, and against us in 2006.
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In the words of that great poet and philosopher William Joel:
"You may be wrong, but for all I know, you may be right."
My feeling is that there is no way Americans will see Nancy's San Francisco values and Rangels posturing and name calling for two years and then vote for them or their ilk again.
EVER.
Than we can go back to being the party of limited government. I think this "loss" in November is the best thing that has ever happened to the conservative movement.
Sometimes you have to take a step back in order to take 3 steps forward. Think big picture.
If you believe like I do that "Government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem" like Ronald Reagan said or "The government that is big enough to give you everything you need, is big enough to take away everything you want" like Goldwater said, then Libertarians are our natural allies.
Don't piss on them.
The total abandonment of fiscal conservatism has angered MANY who aren't in the group motived by "theocratic" concerns.
I don't believe you.
We also have the Rosie O'Donnell wing of the Republican party who see the Christians and Jews as more of a threat than the Islamics... screw them too...
The homo-pandering, religious bashing, dope smoking intellectual lazies...
We also have the Rosie O'Donnell wing of the Republican party who see the Christians and Jews as more of a threat than the Islamics... screw them too...
The homo-pandering, religious bashing, dope smoking intellectual lazies who believe crap like the article that started this thread...
Do you really think libertarian's don't vote?
I favor smaller government, want the government out of my personal business and the legalization of marijuana. It's been 32 years since I last smoked a joint and even if pot was legal now I wouldn't smoke it because I don't like the way it makes me feel. Does this make me a libertarian?
But wait...I don't want homosexual marriage, I don't like abortion and I support the WOT.
Guess I don't fit in with the R's though because I don't want morality legislated.
The discussion was about the effect of libertarians either voting for the Libertarian candidate vs. voting Dem. I'm sure some don't vote, some do, just like everyone else. I'd venture to guess anyone who has gone to the trouble to know enough about politics to know they are a libertarian are more likely to vote than the population at large.
Yes, there are many liberty minded folks in the Republican Party. They have not been well served by the last six years of Republican rule, thought again it is maybe marginally better than if the Donks had been running thing.
Tough choices all around.
From the article:
"Libertarians are broadly defined as people who favor less government in both economic and personal issues. They might be summed up as “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” voters."
This is a non-sequitur. If one posits that "socially conservative" means "eager to have the government enact right-wing social controls" (a popular usage, whether or not it's accurate), it does not follow that "socially liberal" means "favoring less government in personal issues." "Socially liberal" in fact means "eager to have the government enact left-wing social controls."
Tough. BY YOUR OWN ARGUMENT, you have to suck it up and vote for the Republicans anyway.
That became particularly evident when they helped shoot down the administration's initiative to return control of Social Security "contributions" to their owners.
I have been a life long GOP voter, I have Libertarian leanings. Our founders were for the most part Libertarians. While I usually vote GOP I have been turned off by their swing toward more socialist style programs and fiscal irresponsibility. The article is correct, if the GOp wants to win, they need to be fiscally conservative. I personally beleive that the positions of the evangelical voters have no business in politics. Government should govern by what is in the Constitution not what is blowing in the wind.
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