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Why Would Gays Want Children?
Townhall ^ | 12/10/06 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 12/10/2006 2:01:49 PM PST by wagglebee

Is there a more obvious product of heterosexual behavior than the creation of children? If so then isn't it somewhat peculiar that those who shun the behavior of heterosexuality so deeply crave the product that it brings?

This week as I read the news that Mary Cheney, the 37 year old daughter of the Vice-President, was pregnant, I had many such questions running through my head.

I'm not supposed to mind you.

I'm not supposed to be allowed to think such things.

I'm not supposed to openly wonder what such conclusions might mean. Such wondering might bash the belief structure that men and women are completely interchangeable with one another. Yet I wonder them nonetheless. (Call it an ever growing desire to know the truth of the matter.)

Let's face it in America today if we bring up such obvious inconsistencies we are immediately branded and labeled a bigot. I was repeatedly labeled such this week for asking six additional questions arising from the fake act of two women supposedly "becoming parents." Argue with me all you like - the truth is Mary Cheney's baby will share DNA with Mary and the male DNA donor. Genetically he/she will share nothing with Cheney's partner Heather Poe.

So here's the next item I'm not allowed to bring up... Two women who desire children can not achieve satisfaction, because their sexual union is incapable of producing it. And this is fully true - even if all parties involved have healthy, fully functional reproductive biology.

When I mentioned this earlier in the week homosexual bloggers like Andrew Sullivan took exception with the notion and accused me of being hypocritical of the issue when it comes to infertile couples. Yet it is the critics who are being inconsistent.

If a man and wife struggle with infertility, it is because of biological breakdown. What God designed to work a certain way short circuited. He has low sperm count. She doesn't produce eggs as she should. They have trouble getting the two together. The biological dysfunction is not voluntary, they attempt sexual intercourse, time and time again but because of the faulty genetics in the machinery they are unable to complete the conception. And should medicine ever develop a cure for whatever that specific breakdown might be - there will be no problem for the couple, through natural sexual engagement to have another child.

Not so with Cheney and her partner. If they were to choose to engage in sex acts a thousand times over, their biological machinery would never produce what is needed - but for a different reason. There is no dysfunction in this case. Instead the reason the sexual engagement does not work is because the necessary parts are not even present. It is the equivalent of screwing a nut onto a bolt, by using a hammer. They just don't fit.

So after a cacophony of naughty e-mails being sent to me describing thousands of positions a male participant or a turkey baster can be used to impregnate a woman who only has had sex with women, I'm supposed to be intimidated so as to no longer ask these questions.

But they're good questions.

And doesn't the sick attempt at humor reveal what the purpose of my questions was from the very beginning?

In normal relationships the privacy and intimacy of the act of procreation is a spiritual and beautiful thing. In the sexual acts of women who sleep together that adequacy will be something they always long for and never have the satisfaction of knowing, thus undermining the fidelity of what they believe their relationship to be.

In our culture we don't think about our actions from the viewpoint of the One who created us. Rather we obsess about our rights to do what we want, how we want, and as often as we want.

But children are never about what we want. Raising them is about supplying what they need. Britney Spears does no one a service when she gets pregnant on the cheap in a marriage that doesn't last only to end up not providing a father for her children while flashing her nether region for paparazzi. Like wise how moral is it for Mary Cheney to bring a child into society who from the outcome is told that her second mommy is the equivalent of a true father?

There is a reason for homosexual activists to have kids; it is part of the great deception that no one is to question. By having children in the picture the attempt to complete the circle and to convince the world that such a family unit is normal is all important.

Since we do not live in a theocracy it is unreasonable to maintain that Americans will not all make the same choice when it comes to morality and sexual behavior. However that reality has nothing whatsoever to do with whether sexual behavior should be considered moral that extends beyond moral boundaries.

And since homosexuals insist upon desiring limitless sexual activity, not governed by provincial rules and traditions, why would they want children?

Children are the undeniable product of the superiority of heterosexual engagement. And since homosexual behavior in large terms wishes to throw off the weight of conventional sexuality, I am curious as to why they would desire to reinforce the inferiority of their sexual behavior.

And no amount of hate-mail from small minded radical activists will stifle the curiosity from which I seek to learn.


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To: Central Scrutiniser
Its funny, the evangelicals are all for the "God created everything" when it comes to ignoring evolution, but when you point out that God created gay people, then they just deny it.

Yeah, they say that gays *want* to be gay and it is a choice they make - daily I guess :-)

I really think that these folks are terrified of the many changes that are coming and are deperately trying to retreat into the past...as are the fundamentalist Muslims - same kind of reaction to big changes coming.

521 posted on 12/10/2006 8:37:06 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

I have a friend who is a lesbian, and she and her partner have 2 kids. She absolutely doesn't shove it out into the public. In fact, she had a highly visable job in DC, working every day with the most powerful heads of government. Everyone knew her situation, she didn't advertise it, and everyone got along. It was her brain that mattered and how she did her job, not her personal life.

Compare and contrast to someone like Ted Haggard, who ruined his wife and kids lifes because he pretended to be something he wasn't.

Who does more harm?

Don't like gay parents? Then don't associate with them, really simple actually.


522 posted on 12/10/2006 8:38:56 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Homosexuality defies reproductive biology.

Bearing children is a heterosexual desire... universal human dissatisfaction with mortality, reaching out for something eternal...

523 posted on 12/10/2006 8:42:22 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: SuziQ
I'm still waiting for the Catholic church to come out and really strongly announce that the priesthood is no place for sexual deviants, and start booting "fruitloop fathers".
524 posted on 12/10/2006 8:42:28 PM PST by ME-262 (The Democrat party is slowly reduced by Abortion, AIDS, Imprisonment, and China's one child policy.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
but when you point out that God created gay people, then they just deny it.

Yes, I like your logic. God created murderers as well. Lets celebrate what they do. Yea!!! Oh, I feel so much better about myself now that I'm celebrating all behaviors and not being judgmental! Thank you for such wisdom.

OJ is the coolest!!! Yea!!!

525 posted on 12/10/2006 8:45:17 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

LOL! The usual tripe - insinuating that because I have an intrest in supporting morality and truth, I must be suspect.

Well, why do you always support immorality and vice?

And for you to opine that it affects not my life, could not be further from the truth.

The promotion of sexual deviancy and immorality of all kinds destroys the social fabric, and it is only happening at this great speed because of government interference. You libertine-arians are the real nanny staters, overturning millenia of the natural family by judicial fiat and law.


526 posted on 12/10/2006 8:47:32 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Sunsong

Yes, of course. All material energy is created and destroyed.

But basic moral principles do not change.

What are these "great changes" that you refer to?


527 posted on 12/10/2006 8:49:44 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Do you not believe that some murderers are pathologically ill and have mental defects that may lead them into killing?

God created them too.

God must be flawed, because he creates flawed people, why would God not have the proper quality control? Why did God create so many species of animals that went extinct? Seems like a mistake.


528 posted on 12/10/2006 8:49:51 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
I have a friend who is a lesbian, and she and her partner have 2 kids.

No, they do not... either she or her "partner" had them with a man's sperm - or they adopted them...


...she had a highly visable job in DC, working every day with the most powerful heads of government.

Now, there is a bunch of perverts...


It is actually simpler to recognize the axiomatic state of mammalian reproductive biology... (male + female = baby)

529 posted on 12/10/2006 8:50:26 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: little jeremiah

I don't, I just don't spazz out like you do over something that isn't my business, that I can't change, and doesn't affect me.


530 posted on 12/10/2006 8:50:47 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: ME-262

Ahem - you didn't read what Pope Benedict said about homosexuality and the priesthood, then?


531 posted on 12/10/2006 8:50:53 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Sunsong

I don't know if it ws on this thread or somewhere else, but anyway, someone said something along the lines of the far left and the far right complete a circle....they both meet in their goal to control the loves of others.

I find that scary.


532 posted on 12/10/2006 8:51:22 PM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You voted for some of "those perverts"

LOL


533 posted on 12/10/2006 8:51:26 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: Sunsong
I really think that these folks are terrified of the many changes that are coming and are deperately trying to retreat into the past...

I am actually more content to allow the forces of nature to delete the deviant filth from the gene pool... guess that tells you what I think about funding for AIDS research...

534 posted on 12/10/2006 8:53:51 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
You voted for some of "those perverts"

Actually, no, I did not... I voted for one Representative who is a sane person and a Republican...

535 posted on 12/10/2006 8:55:47 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
some murderers are pathologically ill and have mental defects

Funny, that's what they used to say about homosexuals until recently. But, we keep progressing in our thinking. Bestiality is being promoted as a normal lifestyle choice and who are we to judge?

Regarding your God must be flawed comment: Have you read the Bible to know why God did this or are you just blathering on with random thoughts? Well, the answer to your question is that God gave us free will (Adam ate the apple and it all went downhill from there).

There is not a single scientific study that proves homosexual behavior is genetic - as in created. There are plenty that show that it is a choice. Many of them have already been referenced in this thread. Get back to me after you've read some of them.

536 posted on 12/10/2006 8:59:48 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

LOL

If you only knew....


537 posted on 12/10/2006 9:00:48 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: dogbyte12
Those of us who aren't the least bit attracted to the same sex don't obsess on it. It's the ones who scream the loudest who are both repulsed and attracted to homosexuality. You don't treat it as any greater or lesser than any other sin unless you have a problem. So many anti gay crusaders have turned out to be gay that to be honest, the more outspoken a person is, the more I question their true sexual preference.

Very well said, I bet it hits too close to home for a lot of the crusaders here.

Columnist Leonard Pitts Jr. was the first person I ever heard that suggested that Reverend Fred Phelps was a repressed homosexual. I agree with him and have since heard Neal Boortz conclude the same.

I knew of Phelps antics but it wasn't until I lurked here on FR that I learned that he was a dyed in the wool democrat and good friends with Al Gore and family. I'd give my eye teeth (whatever those are) to see that fact reported on the networks while showing the pic of him standing with Al and Tipper.


538 posted on 12/10/2006 9:01:15 PM PST by AtomicBuffaloWings (Still not hot enough, A few of my taste buds are still alive.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

No, the God must be flawed comment is put out there as a logical device to make you think.

Enjoy your life.


539 posted on 12/10/2006 9:02:13 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
something that isn't my business, that I can't change, and doesn't affect me.

Bestiality doesn't affect you and you can't change the people who do it and it's none of your business what farmer Joe does with sexually, in HIS private barn, with his sheep. Do you endorse bestiality as well or do you treat similar "moral values" issues differently?

540 posted on 12/10/2006 9:03:37 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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