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Why Would Gays Want Children?
Townhall ^ | 12/10/06 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 12/10/2006 2:01:49 PM PST by wagglebee

Is there a more obvious product of heterosexual behavior than the creation of children? If so then isn't it somewhat peculiar that those who shun the behavior of heterosexuality so deeply crave the product that it brings?

This week as I read the news that Mary Cheney, the 37 year old daughter of the Vice-President, was pregnant, I had many such questions running through my head.

I'm not supposed to mind you.

I'm not supposed to be allowed to think such things.

I'm not supposed to openly wonder what such conclusions might mean. Such wondering might bash the belief structure that men and women are completely interchangeable with one another. Yet I wonder them nonetheless. (Call it an ever growing desire to know the truth of the matter.)

Let's face it in America today if we bring up such obvious inconsistencies we are immediately branded and labeled a bigot. I was repeatedly labeled such this week for asking six additional questions arising from the fake act of two women supposedly "becoming parents." Argue with me all you like - the truth is Mary Cheney's baby will share DNA with Mary and the male DNA donor. Genetically he/she will share nothing with Cheney's partner Heather Poe.

So here's the next item I'm not allowed to bring up... Two women who desire children can not achieve satisfaction, because their sexual union is incapable of producing it. And this is fully true - even if all parties involved have healthy, fully functional reproductive biology.

When I mentioned this earlier in the week homosexual bloggers like Andrew Sullivan took exception with the notion and accused me of being hypocritical of the issue when it comes to infertile couples. Yet it is the critics who are being inconsistent.

If a man and wife struggle with infertility, it is because of biological breakdown. What God designed to work a certain way short circuited. He has low sperm count. She doesn't produce eggs as she should. They have trouble getting the two together. The biological dysfunction is not voluntary, they attempt sexual intercourse, time and time again but because of the faulty genetics in the machinery they are unable to complete the conception. And should medicine ever develop a cure for whatever that specific breakdown might be - there will be no problem for the couple, through natural sexual engagement to have another child.

Not so with Cheney and her partner. If they were to choose to engage in sex acts a thousand times over, their biological machinery would never produce what is needed - but for a different reason. There is no dysfunction in this case. Instead the reason the sexual engagement does not work is because the necessary parts are not even present. It is the equivalent of screwing a nut onto a bolt, by using a hammer. They just don't fit.

So after a cacophony of naughty e-mails being sent to me describing thousands of positions a male participant or a turkey baster can be used to impregnate a woman who only has had sex with women, I'm supposed to be intimidated so as to no longer ask these questions.

But they're good questions.

And doesn't the sick attempt at humor reveal what the purpose of my questions was from the very beginning?

In normal relationships the privacy and intimacy of the act of procreation is a spiritual and beautiful thing. In the sexual acts of women who sleep together that adequacy will be something they always long for and never have the satisfaction of knowing, thus undermining the fidelity of what they believe their relationship to be.

In our culture we don't think about our actions from the viewpoint of the One who created us. Rather we obsess about our rights to do what we want, how we want, and as often as we want.

But children are never about what we want. Raising them is about supplying what they need. Britney Spears does no one a service when she gets pregnant on the cheap in a marriage that doesn't last only to end up not providing a father for her children while flashing her nether region for paparazzi. Like wise how moral is it for Mary Cheney to bring a child into society who from the outcome is told that her second mommy is the equivalent of a true father?

There is a reason for homosexual activists to have kids; it is part of the great deception that no one is to question. By having children in the picture the attempt to complete the circle and to convince the world that such a family unit is normal is all important.

Since we do not live in a theocracy it is unreasonable to maintain that Americans will not all make the same choice when it comes to morality and sexual behavior. However that reality has nothing whatsoever to do with whether sexual behavior should be considered moral that extends beyond moral boundaries.

And since homosexuals insist upon desiring limitless sexual activity, not governed by provincial rules and traditions, why would they want children?

Children are the undeniable product of the superiority of heterosexual engagement. And since homosexual behavior in large terms wishes to throw off the weight of conventional sexuality, I am curious as to why they would desire to reinforce the inferiority of their sexual behavior.

And no amount of hate-mail from small minded radical activists will stifle the curiosity from which I seek to learn.


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To: Sunsong

Nanny state conservatives or nanny state liberals. They just want to regulate different behaviors. Sin is real. We are free to choose though. That is what makes abstaining from sin worthwhile. The Talibornagain don't get it. The beauty of acting morally is the choice, not the lack thereof.


421 posted on 12/10/2006 6:29:43 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Burkean
Isn't it possible that couples who struggle with infertility are doing so because God is saying "You two don't need to be parents"? If they've waited too long because they were focused on a career, or if they neglected their health and perhaps exposed themselves to diseases that have made it impossible to bear children, why should they be trusted with children?

Maybe G*d's saying that they should be content with adopting children and loving them as their own.

422 posted on 12/10/2006 6:30:30 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: onyx
Well, I could have become gay myself and actually did consider it at one time. No, I'm not joking or being sarcastic. My mom was a lesbian, and I was raised in home that had gays people at our home all the time. I didn't think it was such a bad thing at the time being that I was just a kid (twelve years old). I loved the gay people dearly (still do), and they all treated me well and never did anyone try to make a move on me or try to lead me into this lifestyle. As I said, I love gay people, and many of them are good friends of mine. However, I have also seen gay people come out of the lifestyle, and all of the ex-gay people I know are living happy productive lives, some married and some not.

I find it quite puzzling as to how anyone can come to the conclusion that a homosexual cannot be cured, especially since I have friends who used to be gay but no longer are. I can give you a lot of evidence to back this up, but from reading your posts it doesn't appear you are interested in facts, you simply want to believe the lie you have been told. I'm sure you mean well, but there is plenty of evidence to refute what you say. I know this for a fact because I live among these people.
423 posted on 12/10/2006 6:31:06 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: dogbyte12
I am not getting the love the sinner, hate the sin here.

Mainly because that is nowhere to be found in the Bible. NOWHERE...

424 posted on 12/10/2006 6:32:59 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: scripter
because people were saying we only had biblical arguments against homosexuality.

The most striking observation is that according to Lev and Acts by implication, God holds all nations accountable for sexual immorality.

425 posted on 12/10/2006 6:33:08 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: therut

Excellent post you wrote on # 400!


426 posted on 12/10/2006 6:33:30 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: dmw

I believe they are bisexual. That's how. I am referring largely to males. I can see where some females may have a hatred for men, particularly if they've been abused.


427 posted on 12/10/2006 6:33:52 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: bvw; All

Quote from the Gay Liberation Manifesto (1972, revised 1978), someone just posted it for our edification:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1751204/posts?page=1

COMPULSIVE MONOGAMY. We do not deny that it is as possible for gay couples as for some straight couples to live happily and constructively together. We question however as an ideal, the finding and settling down eternally with one 'right' partner. This is the blueprint of the straight world which gay people have taken over. It is inevitably a parody, since they haven't even the justification of straight couples-the need to provide a stable environment for their children (though in any case we believe that the suffocating small family unit is by no means the best atmosphere for bringing up children.


428 posted on 12/10/2006 6:35:07 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

I don't want them settling in blue states, for that matter. As more and more of them settle there and get naturalized, there will be more liberal Congresscritters. We surely don't need that.


429 posted on 12/10/2006 6:35:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: dmw

We can't get too detailed here, but in generalities, most straight men cannot even fathom preforming oral sex on another man. How could one be forced to become gay? The reverse is true too.


430 posted on 12/10/2006 6:36:09 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: dogbyte12
Nanny state conservatives or nanny state liberals. They just want to regulate different behaviors. Sin is real. We are free to choose though. That is what makes abstaining from sin worthwhile. The Talibornagain don't get it. The beauty of acting morally is the choice, not the lack thereof.

What a wonderful statement. You've packed a lot in a few words!

Yeah, if you look at the political continuum as a circle instead of a straight line - the far left and the far right are right beside each other. And they do exhibit a lot of the same traits and tactics. It's fascinating!

I love the term: Talibornagain. May I use it?

The similarities between the *purists* here and the *purist* Islamists are striking. Neither has any use for personal choice and I really think that they don't understand it. I don't think that someone can comprehend something that is beyond their current capabiltiy - if you know what I mean :-)

431 posted on 12/10/2006 6:36:21 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: rintense

Facts are important. You can choose to believe whatever you want, but you can't refute the facts.


432 posted on 12/10/2006 6:36:25 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Sunsong
Nice try. I'm saying that the electorate regected the gay-bashing, holier-than-thou, condemning, punitive attitudes that are so much on display on this thread.

No, they didn't. They rejected the Republicans perverting their own small-government ideals, and they rejected the situation in Iraq.

433 posted on 12/10/2006 6:41:13 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: Howlin

No doubt, gay, lesbian, and straight persons are the result of the unity of an egg and a sperm. People often make snarky comments when they find out how many children hubby and I have. Things like "haven't you figured out what causes that yet" are common. Well duh. I guess Mary and Heather figured it out, too.


434 posted on 12/10/2006 6:41:14 PM PST by petitfour
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To: onyx
"How could one be forced to become gay? The reverse is true too."

You keep repeating this but you offer no evidence to back it up. Saying because something is true one way, that makes it true the reverse way too is not a very good argument. You can believe anything you want, but it doesn't make it factual.
435 posted on 12/10/2006 6:42:00 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: petitfour

People are so thoughtless.


436 posted on 12/10/2006 6:42:20 PM PST by Howlin (40 days to Destin!)
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To: rintense
A tear drop and the Pacific Ocean are the same to you. Both salty water. To you it is immaterial the amount of water -- no one should care.

What brilliance we have on Free Republic with such logicians as yourself!

437 posted on 12/10/2006 6:42:28 PM PST by bvw
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
They rejected the Republicans perverting their own small-government ideals, and they rejected the situation in Iraq.

The elephant in the room.

438 posted on 12/10/2006 6:43:21 PM PST by Wormwood (Everybody is lying---but it doesn't matter because nobody is listening)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Your opinion nd my opinion differ.


439 posted on 12/10/2006 6:43:25 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

So, you're implying that you're a liberal in a red state, then? If so, why not come here to Maryland. They'd love to have you.


440 posted on 12/10/2006 6:43:26 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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