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Why Would Gays Want Children?
Townhall ^ | 12/10/06 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 12/10/2006 2:01:49 PM PST by wagglebee

Is there a more obvious product of heterosexual behavior than the creation of children? If so then isn't it somewhat peculiar that those who shun the behavior of heterosexuality so deeply crave the product that it brings?

This week as I read the news that Mary Cheney, the 37 year old daughter of the Vice-President, was pregnant, I had many such questions running through my head.

I'm not supposed to mind you.

I'm not supposed to be allowed to think such things.

I'm not supposed to openly wonder what such conclusions might mean. Such wondering might bash the belief structure that men and women are completely interchangeable with one another. Yet I wonder them nonetheless. (Call it an ever growing desire to know the truth of the matter.)

Let's face it in America today if we bring up such obvious inconsistencies we are immediately branded and labeled a bigot. I was repeatedly labeled such this week for asking six additional questions arising from the fake act of two women supposedly "becoming parents." Argue with me all you like - the truth is Mary Cheney's baby will share DNA with Mary and the male DNA donor. Genetically he/she will share nothing with Cheney's partner Heather Poe.

So here's the next item I'm not allowed to bring up... Two women who desire children can not achieve satisfaction, because their sexual union is incapable of producing it. And this is fully true - even if all parties involved have healthy, fully functional reproductive biology.

When I mentioned this earlier in the week homosexual bloggers like Andrew Sullivan took exception with the notion and accused me of being hypocritical of the issue when it comes to infertile couples. Yet it is the critics who are being inconsistent.

If a man and wife struggle with infertility, it is because of biological breakdown. What God designed to work a certain way short circuited. He has low sperm count. She doesn't produce eggs as she should. They have trouble getting the two together. The biological dysfunction is not voluntary, they attempt sexual intercourse, time and time again but because of the faulty genetics in the machinery they are unable to complete the conception. And should medicine ever develop a cure for whatever that specific breakdown might be - there will be no problem for the couple, through natural sexual engagement to have another child.

Not so with Cheney and her partner. If they were to choose to engage in sex acts a thousand times over, their biological machinery would never produce what is needed - but for a different reason. There is no dysfunction in this case. Instead the reason the sexual engagement does not work is because the necessary parts are not even present. It is the equivalent of screwing a nut onto a bolt, by using a hammer. They just don't fit.

So after a cacophony of naughty e-mails being sent to me describing thousands of positions a male participant or a turkey baster can be used to impregnate a woman who only has had sex with women, I'm supposed to be intimidated so as to no longer ask these questions.

But they're good questions.

And doesn't the sick attempt at humor reveal what the purpose of my questions was from the very beginning?

In normal relationships the privacy and intimacy of the act of procreation is a spiritual and beautiful thing. In the sexual acts of women who sleep together that adequacy will be something they always long for and never have the satisfaction of knowing, thus undermining the fidelity of what they believe their relationship to be.

In our culture we don't think about our actions from the viewpoint of the One who created us. Rather we obsess about our rights to do what we want, how we want, and as often as we want.

But children are never about what we want. Raising them is about supplying what they need. Britney Spears does no one a service when she gets pregnant on the cheap in a marriage that doesn't last only to end up not providing a father for her children while flashing her nether region for paparazzi. Like wise how moral is it for Mary Cheney to bring a child into society who from the outcome is told that her second mommy is the equivalent of a true father?

There is a reason for homosexual activists to have kids; it is part of the great deception that no one is to question. By having children in the picture the attempt to complete the circle and to convince the world that such a family unit is normal is all important.

Since we do not live in a theocracy it is unreasonable to maintain that Americans will not all make the same choice when it comes to morality and sexual behavior. However that reality has nothing whatsoever to do with whether sexual behavior should be considered moral that extends beyond moral boundaries.

And since homosexuals insist upon desiring limitless sexual activity, not governed by provincial rules and traditions, why would they want children?

Children are the undeniable product of the superiority of heterosexual engagement. And since homosexual behavior in large terms wishes to throw off the weight of conventional sexuality, I am curious as to why they would desire to reinforce the inferiority of their sexual behavior.

And no amount of hate-mail from small minded radical activists will stifle the curiosity from which I seek to learn.


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To: dogbyte12

But I see quotes on here all the time about what the Bible says about homosexuality; surely you must be missing them.


141 posted on 12/10/2006 3:49:59 PM PST by Howlin (40 days to Destin!)
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To: durasell
Being a democracy has nothing to do with what you suggest it does. Did you happen to notice that in our democracy here in the US we have two parties, and those parties may change over time -- Tory versus, Whig-Federalist versus Democrat-Republican, Democrat versus Republican -- but each party encompasses a ceratin set of ethical and moral -- that is poliitical -- philosophies, not shared by the other?

When you want Flava-style ethiics and morality -- anything goes, I'm-okay-You're-okay, moral ambivalence and mushism, Kofi Annan-esque mosh-pit-ism -- go to DU.

142 posted on 12/10/2006 3:50:03 PM PST by bvw
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To: onyx

Do you deny environment in homosexuality?


143 posted on 12/10/2006 3:50:25 PM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: wagglebee

I don't believe you.

And I think you were gutless not to say who it was if it wasn't Mary Cheney.


144 posted on 12/10/2006 3:50:51 PM PST by Howlin (40 days to Destin!)
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To: Howlin

It sounds like they're against gays because they have sex all the time, if I'm reading most of the posts right.





There are a lot of folks who flat out don't like gay people. The whole idea of it ranges from bizarre and alien to repulsive and perverted.

That's the way the world is --

The problem starts when those views become poiltical.


145 posted on 12/10/2006 3:51:16 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: gidget7
I know a couple of homosexuals. Their words not mine: If I wanted children I wouldn't be gay7"

LOL --- so the ones you know have elected to be gay?

FOTFLOL!

146 posted on 12/10/2006 3:51:18 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: scripter

What you fail to realize is that you are peddling prejudice and bigotry. And I really think you could be a better person than that.


147 posted on 12/10/2006 3:51:29 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: scripter


Answer my question.


148 posted on 12/10/2006 3:51:44 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: Howlin
You seem obsessed with homosexuals.

LOL!!! This from the person who has posted 14 TIMES (15% of the posts) to this thread already. Look in the mirror! Being a homosexual activist is a person obsessed.

149 posted on 12/10/2006 3:51:56 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Sunsong
Where are the threads decrying people having large families? There are threads everyday, it seems, attacking Mary Cheney. I'm sure you'll be able to come up with a few threads if what you say is true.

I'm not talking about "threads," I'm talking about real life.

I only have four kids, and have had to put up with those insulting comments being made by my workplace superior over lunch, for heaven's sake.

Any parent of a large family will tell you that the baby-hating, pro-abortion, pro-birth control, anti-Christian folks have NO, ZERO, NADA compulsion about making the size of other people's families their business.

150 posted on 12/10/2006 3:51:57 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Sunsong

It's too bad you refuse to read what ex-gays have to say about homosexuality.


151 posted on 12/10/2006 3:52:24 PM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: bvw

When you want Flava-style ethiics and morality -- anything goes, I'm-okay-You're-okay, moral ambivalence and mushism, Kofi Annan-esque mosh-pit-ism -- go to DU.





You work for the Dems, right? This is some kind of viral marketing effort.


152 posted on 12/10/2006 3:52:32 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

Having a child is not a private act. Ask Howlin. Every birth gets registered at the Courthouse, and things related to birth's are disputed and settled there -- things such as paternity, support, estates, wills.


153 posted on 12/10/2006 3:52:33 PM PST by bvw
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To: Campion

I am talking about threads. So your point is lost.


154 posted on 12/10/2006 3:53:32 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: onyx
Here's my answer, summarized quite nicely: The Gay Gene?. You should find the answer to the question I asked you in there as well.
155 posted on 12/10/2006 3:54:40 PM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: Campion
Any parent of a large family will tell you that the baby-hating, pro-abortion, pro-birth control, anti-Christian folks have NO, ZERO, NADA compulsion about making the size of other people's families their business.

My sister has eight kids and she would never say that. So your statement is not true.

156 posted on 12/10/2006 3:54:49 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: dogbyte12
I'll let you know when they cure AIDS. I have no use for hypotheticals.
157 posted on 12/10/2006 3:54:59 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Your overly wordy post really says nothing.


158 posted on 12/10/2006 3:55:11 PM PST by Carolinamom ("I don't have time to be fingerpointing." ---President George W. Bush)
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To: Campion
errata ... compulsion compunction
159 posted on 12/10/2006 3:55:13 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: scripter

It's too bad you are so obsessed with increasing the amount of prejudice and bigotry in this world.


160 posted on 12/10/2006 3:55:34 PM PST by Sunsong
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