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I know a Marine, and he knows the stakes
Townhall.com ^ | 12-08-06 | Mary Katharine Ham

Posted on 12/09/2006 10:34:07 PM PST by jazusamo

I know a Marine. He sits in a bar in North Carolina. He came there by way of Fallujah. The same close-cropped blonde fuzz glimmers on his head in the dim light as burned under the hot sun of Iraq. He’s the greatest storyteller I know, spinning tales about his overseas exploits, both combat and otherwise—only with the express permission of the mixed company present, of course.

He speaks with a wit and color that would surprise John Kerry. He is not a quiet man. But I wonder what he would say this week. I wonder what he would say to the Iraq Study Group’s proposed “change in the primary mission of U.S. forces in Iraq that will enable the United States to begin to move its combat forces out of Iraq responsibly.”

I imagine he’d just shake his head at me. He knows what the new “primary mission” is, as does anyone who’s even skimmed the report, and it’s not the type of mission Marines are accustomed to. The mission is to lose. Lose slowly, lose “responsibly,” lose diplomatically, but lose without a doubt. My lively Marine friend would likely be disgusted into silence.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cutandrun; iraq; iraqstudygroup; iraqsurrendergroup; isg; wot
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Mary Katharine Ham has got it right.
1 posted on 12/09/2006 10:34:11 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
The left may not realize it, but our troops are supplying the best and sanest comments and questions concerning the battles.

Right in a Left World: Why am I more patient than someone sitting at home in Fort ‘Livingroom’?”

2 posted on 12/09/2006 10:45:19 PM PST by DakotaRed (Kerry Should Resign!)
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To: DakotaRed

TO ALL FREEPERS-- NEED HELP: I write op-eds and could use some help. I have read stats that about 80-85 percent of the U.S. military voted for President Bush in the '04 election and that about 15 percent voted for Sen. Kerry. Any idea where I could find backing for this vote statistic? My e-mail is: swampler@jps.net THANKS greatly if anyone can help.


3 posted on 12/09/2006 10:49:37 PM PST by sruleoflaw
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To: DakotaRed

I don't believe the RATS are going to benefit from this groups report like they think they are.


4 posted on 12/09/2006 10:58:34 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: sruleoflaw

...google is your friend.


5 posted on 12/09/2006 10:58:48 PM PST by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: aligncare

google is NOT your friend. ALgore heavily invested in and involved with.


6 posted on 12/09/2006 11:14:02 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: sruleoflaw
Google this phrase: "military voting patterns." Your theory about the 80-15% breakdown is not supported, by the way.
7 posted on 12/09/2006 11:41:49 PM PST by Steely Tom
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To: bobby.223; sruleoflaw
...let me then revise my comment...Lexis-Nexis is your friend.
8 posted on 12/09/2006 11:44:15 PM PST by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: jazusamo
Mary Katharine Ham has got it right.

Unfortunately, yes she does.

9 posted on 12/10/2006 1:07:00 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters on endlessly. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: jazusamo
That Marine would call the Iraqi Surrender Group God damn cowards.

I am an ex-Squid and I have had a few run-ins with Marines...

they are abso-fu*king-lutely capable of handling this.

Just un-leash them, let them do what they are trained to do... kill.

Why is everyone so surprised that the American military has been trained to kill and detroy and just generally make it a bad day for whoever decides to cross us.

Un-leash the wolf... let's start killing... that is all they understand.

These are people who will want to kill you if your goat comes into their yard.

Forget shock and awe.............

we must show them hellfire and brimstone!!

10 posted on 12/10/2006 1:20:12 AM PST by Nitro (A)
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To: Steely Tom

I think if you look at it by branch the Marine Corps is like 85%, followed by the Army around 75-80%, with the Navy and Airforce like 50-50. So the overall military vote becomes something around 60%.

Dont know where you find those stats and i think you would have a hell of time looking for them, but i remember something like that around the 2004 election.


11 posted on 12/10/2006 1:55:54 AM PST by chudogg (Woof Woof)
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To: chudogg
Dont know where you find those stats and i think you would have a hell of time looking for them, but i remember something like that around the 2004 election.

Chu talkin' to me?

Chu talkin' to ME?


12 posted on 12/10/2006 2:03:41 AM PST by Steely Tom
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To: jazusamo

James Baker is an expert at losing: Losing in Beirut, losing in Gulf War I, and losing in the Pali-Israeli conflict. He should be tried for treason.


13 posted on 12/10/2006 2:32:49 AM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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To: jazusamo

There seems sto be some confusion.

The US defeated Saddam quickly with the loss of a raelatively small number of soldiers.

The US is unable to defeat an insurrection because it is fighting it with its hands tied behind its back.

The two things are different.

Anyone who thinks the US can be defeated by a conventional military force is delusional.


15 posted on 12/10/2006 6:47:39 AM PST by plenipotentiary
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To: sruleoflaw

The a magazine called "Army Times" did that poll and it was about 75% voted for Bush. You can Google it with some effort.


16 posted on 12/10/2006 7:01:07 AM PST by avacado
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To: sruleoflaw

Here you go:

Who you chose for president and why:
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-383722.php

2004 Military Times Election Survey
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?s=1-292925-2004surveygraphics.php


17 posted on 12/10/2006 7:03:43 AM PST by avacado
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To: jazusamo
We ought to debate the merit of shifting to a training mission in the Sunni trianagle versus carrying the combat load indefinitely. This calculation of our national interest is not advanced by maudlin emotionalism.
18 posted on 12/10/2006 7:23:51 AM PST by Man of the Right
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To: jazusamo

We ought to debate the merit of shifting to a training mission in the Sunni trianagle versus carrying the combat load indefinitely. This calculation of our national interest is not advanced by maudlin emotionalism.


19 posted on 12/10/2006 7:24:18 AM PST by Man of the Right
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To: Islamisalie
OK, some of their ideas are a little out there, but it's the spirit that counts.

Marines and "spirit"? You Bet!

20 posted on 12/10/2006 7:46:13 AM PST by isthisnickcool (If you can't light a fire in the vacuum of space what's the deal with the Sun?)
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