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It's a Cheney! (Reality Is a Blessed Event)
washingtonpost.com ^ | 12/8/06 | Ruth Marcus

Posted on 12/09/2006 1:20:31 AM PST by beyond the sea

My only regret about Mary Cheney's pregnancy is that it didn't happen earlier -- say, during the 2004 presidential race, when Cheney was working for her father's campaign and his running mate was busy trying to write discrimination against people like her into the Constitution.

Imagine a hugely pregnant Mary Cheney sitting in the vice president's box at the convention. Imagine Cheney and her partner, Heather Poe, cuddling their newborn onstage at the victory celebration.

How perfectly that would have illustrated the clanging disconnect between the Republican Party's outmoded intolerance and the benign reality of gay families today.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cheney; fatherlesschild; gay; homosexualagenda; mary; marycheney
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To: PetroniusMaximus; MadIvan
look like an obsessive nut,

One small correction: prove yourself to be an obsessive nut.

Regards,

L

41 posted on 12/09/2006 3:36:13 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: Lurker; Ingtar; MadIvan
The Vice President is going to have a grandchild. A grandchild I'm sure given his daughters proclivities he was sure he was never going to have. I suppose being happy for Mr. and Mrs. Cheney is completely out of the question.

Good point. I hope that they are as happy as they can be about this circumstance.

42 posted on 12/09/2006 3:38:46 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
This is not a pro-homosexual site

But it is a pro-Freedom site which you obviously haven't noticed.

This doesn't cost you a dime. No government funds are involved. No public policy is being legislated.

Therefore it's not really any of your business.

If you want to go into mourning and where a black armband feel free. In fact I recommend it. It'll make it easier for the rest of us to spot an approaching nut job.

Have a wonderful day.

L

43 posted on 12/09/2006 3:39:15 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: NavVet
The post doesn't mention the studies showing how screwed up kids who grow up in such "families" become.

Details please, and backgrounds of the sources also.

Why don't you fill everyone in on that since you bring up the subject.

;-)

44 posted on 12/09/2006 3:41:39 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Lurker
If I am an "obsessive nut" for defending the idea of the traditional family then so be it, fella.

Let me point you to the founder of this site's statement regarding it's philosophy...

"As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism,..."
45 posted on 12/09/2006 3:41:45 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: beyond the sea
Just because they (gays) cannot conceive together does not mean that at times being homosexual isn’t caused by birth factors.

The argument is akin to saying that because mules can't breed they can't be bred.

It's foolishness.

The human genome hasn't been fully mapped, let alone fully studied. It's entirely possible it's genetic. It's also entirely possible it's not. It's also entirely possible that it's partly genetic and partly upbringing.

No one really knows. Any one who says they do is a fool or a liar.

L

46 posted on 12/09/2006 3:42:00 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: beyond the sea
More than half of the Fortune 500 companies offered health benefits for domestic partners this year I'll bet that insurance costs a pretty penny.

I would think the cost would go up across the board - not on an individual basis. The likelihood of AIDS would definitely raise the red flag. In this "politically correct" world, the insurance carrier would probably raise the overall premium for the company's coverage. Each employee would be treated (charged) equally.You wouldn't single out the high- risk ones.

47 posted on 12/09/2006 3:46:28 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: Lurker
" This doesn't cost you a dime. No government funds are involved. No public policy is being legislated. Therefore it's not really any of your business."


Excuse me, but I'll be the one to decide what is, or is not my business. Your tired argument sound like something I would expect to hear from some burnt-out hippy professor. "It's a private matter, it's just about sex etc." ad nauseam.

It IS my business that the Vice President's daughter is publicly putting herself and her deviancy in the spotlight. She is setting an example, she is making a statement - and the Cheney's sit silently by while she promotes pollution in our culture.

She is being used by the left as a posterchild for their pet issues. By virtue of the public nature of this event, it is open to public criticism.
48 posted on 12/09/2006 3:50:06 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Please don't let me stop you.

Grab yourself a sign, put on a black armband, and march around in front of the Cheney household. I'm sure some members of the Westboro Baptist Church would love to help you out with that.

Feel free to make yourself look like the pathetic hate filled little busybody you seem to be. It's no skin off my nose.

And please explain just how exactly you're 'defending' a traditional family by spouting this foppish nonsense? If you'll look closely at the clip you posted, this site opposes 'government enforced... homosexualism'.

Please explain to me how this is an example of the government enforcing homosexuality. I'd be fascinated to read your answer to that.

This is two consenting adults engaging in behavior that, if they weren't related to famous people, you would never have heard of.

But you want the Vice President and his wife to put on sack cloth and ashes over it apparently.

Well best of luck with the mourning period. I'd recommend a good hot shower after hanging with the Phelps crowd.

L

49 posted on 12/09/2006 3:50:07 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Excuse me, but I'll be the one to decide what is, or is not my business

Of course you will Senator Clinton.

L

50 posted on 12/09/2006 3:51:00 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: beyond the sea
Why can't it be genetic? And, if it were a mental illness, it would be possible, at some point, to cure it. Phyllis Schlafly has a son who's gay. Laura Ingraham has a brother who is gay. Dick and Lynne Cheney have a lesbian daughter. I have a gay cousin. I grew up next door to a family whose youngest son was gay. It happens in every family. It happens in every culture. There have been homosexuals since the dawn of time. They are not going away, whether or not you approve of them.

I honestly believe it's more due to some sort of traumatic disorder. Particularly when it comes to male homosexuals.

Obsessive compulsive behavior inclined towards frequent sexual encounters with multiple anonymous partners in public facilities? Bug chasers? Tendencies towards pedophilia?

I don't think it serves society to redefine a psychosis so that is conveniently fits into one's social structure.

I'm convinced it's the way an individual is programmed as derived from life experiences, in many cases potential traumatic experiences. Rape or molestation being a possible trigger for the given psychosis leading to the evolution of homosexual tendencies. It can be treated, and we have well known documented evidence it can be cured and that people can be rehabilitated into normal society.

My conclusions are based on documented studies readily available from several organizations. You can simply google them for personal reference.

I should point out that "Down Syndrome" is a condition that one is born with, so I do concede your point that people can be born with the "condition" that makes them prone to said behavior, but I must submit that the behavior is taught to those inclined to act in that manner.

Want them to go away? Certainly not. Want to help and cure them? As many as we can help, absolutely.

I'm sorry, but I can never accept their behavior as normal, except with respect to viewing it as a potentially curable infliction.

In that same breath, I know we can't cure Downe's Syndrome, either. Very sad.

And yes, I know gay people and have a gay relative. I've also worked in the art industry and if anyone here has done that you know what I am inferring to. This doesn't change my thinking towards my statements at all.

I have to go out, but I'll check up later on our friendly debate. Cheers! : )

51 posted on 12/09/2006 3:51:06 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: kellynch
Sorry, Kelly, I meant to include you in the ping above (#51).
52 posted on 12/09/2006 3:51:51 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob; kellynch; MadIvan; Liz; norwaypinesavage; Mo1; Billthedrill; Ingtar; Miss Marple; ...
And from a naturalist perspective, I don't think human beings are genetically programmed for suicide as a species.

I would sometimes think to disagree on that. I think we are killing ourselves with "our nature".

Let me ask, why has "mankind" pushed forward through time to create weapons, biological and otherwise, that most likely will erase us from the planet, and will most likely do it sometime very soon?

Or, do you wish to blame it on God for giving us that dastardly "free will"?

Answers?

53 posted on 12/09/2006 3:52:17 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Lurker
"Feel free to make yourself look like the pathetic hate filled little busybody you seem to be."


You've descended into childish name calling because you have no argument.

Game over.
54 posted on 12/09/2006 3:54:50 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: beyond the sea

"the benign reality of gay families today."

Yeah, that one leapt off the page at me, too. Subtle as a brick?


55 posted on 12/09/2006 3:56:46 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: beyond the sea

Money is the root of all evil.

Money isn't evil, but putting it before God's statutes is.


56 posted on 12/09/2006 4:05:22 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush if given a chance.)
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To: Lurker

The Vice President is going to have a grandchild



Where's dad, hmm?

This is ridiculous. Lesbians having babies.


Tolerence of everything means belief in nothing.


57 posted on 12/09/2006 4:08:33 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush if given a chance.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus; MadIvan
Awhile back, a Russian priest performed a same-sex marriage in an Orthodox Church. The Church leadership, upon hearing of this, had the church burnt, torn down, hauled off and the land was salted. We have been so anesthetized by our culture that we accept these abominations as normal.

I see your point.

Let me also tell you one thing about our culture that had me a little sickened recently.

On Thanksgiving Day, supposedly one of the "great conservative spokesmen", Rush Limbaugh, had his radio show on at the same time as usual here in my city, Pittsburgh. The VERY FIRST story he chose to put on that Thanksgiving Day Show ( a rather spiritual day if you ask me) was a story about a guy on a farm somewhere who dragged a LAMB into a barn and raped it. Rush thought it was funny. He even included a detail of a stick with a mirror on it that the rapist used to see if the lamb was smiling. It was pathetic.

Our society and some conservatives here who hold that self-adulating, sanctimonious blowhard up as a hero baffle me. To me he's just another symptom of just how "anesthetized our culture" really is.

When people like Rush Limbaugh are held up as heroes by some "conservatives" in this society, we are for sure dying.

58 posted on 12/09/2006 4:08:45 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Sunsong

Republican lesbians having kids = Nobody's business.

Democrat lesbians having kids = Everyone pile on.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1617231/posts


59 posted on 12/09/2006 4:12:11 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Finalapproach29er
Tolerence of everything means belief in nothing.

I believe because there's nothing 'governmental' involved in it that it's none of my business.

I'm one of those 'small government' types after all.

L

60 posted on 12/09/2006 4:13:29 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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