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I'm not going to waste my time trying to find statistics to back up the obvious.

You and others have felt free to mention your best case scenarios as if they were the majority of cases without proof of such. Comments like, "Homosexuals who want children plan for it and are determined to provide a healthy atmosphere", were foisted off as if gospel. I'm just saying hold on a minute. There's a flip side to this coin.

Have you ever watched the gay pride parades on television? Do you know what takes place in San Francisco bath houses on weekends? Do you really think that this type of activity won't find it's way into the parental makeup if gay adoption is opened up across the board?

You're arguing a point that there really isn't much difference between homosexual parenting and heterosexual parenting. I think you're wrong.

I think acceptance of this across the board is going to lead to a lot of severely abused children. And while I do think heterosexuals can abuse children too, I find it reprehensible to think we would open up what certainly will be instances of vile lifestyles for children to be brought up in. And I'm not inferring your friends would be an example of this. I'm simply saying once the door is wide open, you'll have damned many children to an abhorrent living condition.

You alas need stats. Otherwise, we are left with the anecdotal. And we have the issue of gay parents versus foster homes, when stable hetero couples don't want the "problem children," and that is simply what is out there. We have a lot of highly educated successful gay couples that want to complete their families, and a lot of kids that need homes. You have your theory, and I have mine, and on this one, I am confident that the stats will bear me out.

And I'm not inferring your friends would be an example of this. I'm simply saying once the door is wide open, you'll have damned many children to an abhorrent living condition.

I don't agree with you, but I just wanted to say I really appreciate the civil discourse.

I have gay friends who are parents, and I understand your concerns.

Thanks for being here and maintaining a good dialogue! I really appreciate it!!

(off to bed)

Thank-you for saying this...

World Magazine..has a lead story this week on how angry children become when they realize their mom's chose to 'have' them without knowing the father.

These children wander through life trying to assimilate and find their place & position in 'a family'...

We've had enough years of this claptrap ...so now we have the empirical evidence.

It's a purely selfish choice!!

No one....no one! cares about the children.....

It's all about ME ME ME!