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[Bushwacker777]

If I want a New York Democrat then why wouldn't I just go ahead and vote for Hillary?

[NapkinUser]

On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." -Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

The Real Rudy Giuliani:

From Human Events:

Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance

As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:

"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.

I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...

Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.

Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."

Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999

It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?

Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate

In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.

Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

Soft on Gay Marriage

Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.

Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:

His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."

Here's more from the New York Daily News:

"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."

Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.

Pro-Illegal Immigration

As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:

"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."

That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:

"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."

If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.

READ MORE HERE

[Man50D]

A Vote for Rudy Why Giuliani should be president

RINO alert!

[Smokin' Joe]

Would someone please post the graphic of the "Aw Jeeez, not this s**t again!" guy?

Thank You.

[Jim Noble]

Yes.

[scory]

If you want an idea of how Giuliani would govern take a look at Arnold of California. They are RINOs of a similar stripe.

[cpdiii]

As mayor of New York he administered some of the nation’s toughest laws against gun ownership

If Rudy is the Republican nominee I will hold my nose and vote for him. If he will change is stance on gun ownership I will campaign for him. If he will change his position on Partial Birth Abortion and gun ownership I will send money to his campaign and campaign for him.

[inkling]

Giuliani will be a great president. I'm looking forward to it.

[alloysteel]

The probable nominee for each of both major parties is very likely somebody that nobody is talking about now. As each of these prospective rivals is pushed forward by the mess media and the presstitute corps, almost as quickly a firestorm flashes up around each of them. It is as if there was a terrible haste to tarnish any potential candidate.

Some of it is bogus, and some of it is done to conceal even larger blemishes from being examined. Maybe there is no Ronald Reagan to be had for nomination this time. Some governor, somewhere, is still in grooming, but now is too soon. Anyone whose entire political experience has been as a legislator, may almost certainly be dismissed out of hand, as they bring far too narrow a perspective to be effective executives. Former military officers of high rank, are almost as limited as former legislators, unless they have had experience in running some industrial empire, and can show different dimensions of themselves.

I would nominate myself, but that would tend to be just a little egocentric, and I do not wear that persona well. But I do know for sure, I am WAY smarter than some 95% of those who have already offered up their services to the cause.

But America does not want, or even need, smart people to run it. What we need, is determined people. The next 20 years or so is going to be just one tough old toboggan ride.

Part of it over sand and rocks.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

With the MSM picks for the GOP POTUS, there will be plenty of people screaming "If we don't elect a democrat with an R by their name, we will get a democrat with a D by their name.

This sure worked well the last election. /S

[Thud]

It's Giuliani's to lose and McCain's to win. The best thing about Giuliani is who his enemies were when he was Mayor of New York City, rather than his actions on 9/11 and afterwards. The enemies he had as mayor define where Giuliani really stands on family and social issues.

McCain's biggest problem is that his supporters are best described as "not Republicans", i.e., not RINO's, but people who are not registered as Republicans, i.e., independents and Democrats. His next biggest is the votes and stands he has taken as a Senator in the past five years - IMO those weigh more against McCain than anything Giuliani has said or done with the possible exception of Rudi being for gun control, and on that one I think Rudi will decide that "Paris is worth a mass" as Henry of Navarre, aka Henri IV, did.

[stockstrader]

He'll never get my vote. If it comes down to him and Hillary--I could care less who wins.

[Cincinna]

A good lesson in this fine article by Brookhiser.

Rudy is a good strong candidate who can take out Hillary.

We already know how strong he is on the WOT, supporting the Military and fighting Islamo-fascists. He has told us what kind of SCOTUS judges he would pick : in the mold of Scalia and Thomas, like Roberts and Alito.

These are the foremost issues of our time. Waiting around for the perfect candidate with whom you agree on everything means the election of another Clinton, this one far worse than her HINO.

[Cincinna]

RUDY ON TERRORISM as far back as Munich:

Giuliani had spoken of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in his first mayoral inaugural address, in a paean to Gotham spunk (“New Yorkers of the 1990s have the same ingenuity, sensitivity, talent, and courage that our ancestors had in building our great city”). The methods he had used to fight the mob turned out to be essential in cracking the Jersey City terror cell that planned the 1993 bombing, and other attacks. Andy McCarthy, lead prosecutor of Omar Abdel-Rahman, the Blind Sheik, says that the Justice Department used Giuliani’s “RICO paradigm,” not focusing on “foot soldiers” but “peeling back the case” to “big organizations in time and space.” Most important was Giuliani’s moral clarity. Siegel’s wonk coexists with a man of passion. Giuliani “saw this issue early on as very black and white,” says McCarthy. “Part of what people who don’t like Rudy don’t like about him is how headstrong he is.” In 1995 Giuliani ejected Yasser Arafat from a Lincoln Center concert honoring the 50th anniversary of the United Nations. “Maybe we should wake people up to the way this terrorist is being romanticized.” After 9/11 he returned $10 million from a Saudi prince who had suggested that our Palestinian policy had helped cause the attack. In his speeches Giuliani dates the run-up to 9/11 from the 1985 murder of wheelchair-bound Leon Klinghoffer by Palestinian hijackers.

[Names Ash Housewares]

R is for Rino these days it seems.

Sigh.

[tkathy]

Go Rudy

[Alberta's Child]

An anti-Giuliani website, SayNoToRudy.org, posted by social conservatives in Ohio, pulled the plug on itself after deciding that “Mr. Giuliani is truly a committed Republican and an accomplished conservative on many issues."

I really had to laugh at this one, since this silly SayNoToRudy.org charade was pretty thoroughly debunked right here on FreeRepublic.

[jwalsh07]

But in war one wants a war leader, who may be otherwise unacceptable.

When one wants a war leader one should look to somebody who knows about war rather than looking at one who turns a blind eye to the murder of full term babies right up unitl the moment the little toe leaves the birth canal.

I don't respect Giuliani, why would I ever follow him into the breach?

[righthand man]

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.
Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.
Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

This is why I'm against him