Posted on 12/08/2006 2:36:29 PM PST by Uncledave
If he wins, he'll do it without my vote. I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.
Ditto.
Add my ditto. If Rudy can win without the enthusiastic support of the conservative base--more power to him.
He shoould have 'taken out' Hillary in her reelection bid. He can spare us his efforts now. Good luck to him (especially getting the nomination withOUT the backing of the conservative base)!
He'll never get my vote either.
Abortion issues are not as close to the top of my list as terrorism is. Rudy will be extremly tough on Islamic Terrorism and that issue overshadows all others in my opinion. we could be facing the end of American civilation as we know if. Other issues will have to wait for now. Islam is on the march and we need someone with balls to be there to stop it ..Rudy is the guy .
Who would you voye for then ? Who has a chance that is .
I DO know this, though. I will NEVER vote for Hillary (or any democrat, for that matter), and I will NEVER vote for Rudy. If it comes down to a race between those two--I could care less who wins.
Rudy will win even without the WHINOs.
And even if it did--good luck again getting elected without the enthusiastic support of the conservative base (ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO TURNOUT--which WILL make the difference).
If the Republicans want to win--they best find someone that excites the conservative base. Otherwise, it will be another disaster like the '96 election was--where Dole created no excitement or enthusiasm at all.
"Abortion issues are not as close to the top of my list as terrorism is. Rudy will be extremly tough on Islamic Terrorism and that issue overshadows all others in my opinion. we could be facing the end of American civilation as we know if. Other issues will have to wait for now."
Are you serious? You don't care what domestic policys happen as long as an unpopular war in Iraq continues? I'll disagree. If I wanted a leftist who is strong on "Islamic terrorism" and grossly weak on domestic issues I'd vote for Lieberman.
I think he will too. He will appeal to a lot of crossover voters ... and lots of people will not vote for Hillary.
Me neither.
You still don't get it.I am not going to worry anymore about you folks getting your perfect candidate. Me, I am going to do what is needed to keep my family and America safe.
Enjoy your crusade.
No! It is you that doesn't get IT!
I am not ever going to vote for someone that can not command one iota of respect from me. Rudy or anyone else.
And BTW, it is my family that goes to war every day and puts their life on the line so that you can vote for whom ever you like.
There are NO perfect candidates. Have we EVER had one in this country? EVER????
But when it comes to IMPERFECT candidates--Rudy rates near the top (ref. abortion, gun control, gay issues, amnesty, big government, voting and supporting Mario Cuomo, not to mention his personal 'baggage'--which are minor in comparison to the six major issues I listed).
I really think we can find someone LESS imperfect than THAT!
Couldn't agree with you more! Since I campaigned for Goldwater as teenager as well, would say I could guess the age within a few years. :)
The usual anti-Rudy suspects that watch these threads like a hawk will answer right away.
I have been pleasantly surprised at the number on here that are thinking like we are -- a lot of common sense conservatives on this site IMHO!
I guess it's ok for 'those' usual suspects to be Rudy-apologists, but not for conservatives to make their case opposing him. Ahhhh,,,now I get it.
Actually I have been making a joke out of how fast the anti-Rudy group gets to the threads or replies they don't like. I have been here long enough to see a pattern! They are much nicer then some of the Freepers in the past. We have honest disagreements but no flame wars. Been in those as well in the past.
BTW, I am a conservative going back to Goldwater and I support Rudy because of the leadership that he has shown. He has a backbone and is not kumbaya which means a lot to me! I am tired of 'compassionate conservatism' and 'kumbaya' both which irritate me to no end right now.
Have a hunch if more Freepers had observed our State House in the last session and some of the most idiotic bills that were debated, you would be feeling the same way. Infrastructure took a backseat to social issues even though our state was burning. With all the 'feel good' bills, they couldn't pass a budget and had to go in an extra session (where they got paid more money). Of course we are the State where the previous legislature gave a tax rebate which we had to claim on our income tax -- all of $90 and we had to pay extra tax! Took a ton of money to process and mail the stupid rebate but everyone took credit. This fiscal conservative has had it!
This past year in OK from the State House to the pro-life disruptors on campus to the threats made when a parade name was changed to holiday three parades ago but last year and this year it became a central issue it cost us statewide elections. How do I know about the threats? I received some of them after I dared say the name of the parade didn't make any difference as we were putting Christmas back in the parade with our float. All the threats were from the self-identified, religious right,'social' conservatives some who taught at the Christian school and were nasty with their comments. Told my daughter who answered the phone to get on the next boat back to Italy because her ilk are not wanted here. These people go to church every Sunday, send their kids to a Christian school, and were some of the nastiest people I have ever dealt with and I know who they are and who was behind them. Those are only a few of the low lights of the last two year. Try getting a virus sent to your computer several times a day for almost a month until it was turned over to the authorities.
After being involved with these people for the last two years as a party official, I do not want a social conservative as our candidate for President or we are going to take a beating because of their temperment and 'my way or no way' which is worse then I ever thought it could be. When you observe it up close and personal, it paints a whole different picture and it is not a pretty one.
I am pro-life personally but after the past two years you will NEVER find me shoving it at anyone. What I have witnessed made me stop and think the damage that has been done and how some people who would become pro-life won't because of the irrational behavior of some people getting right in their face. Those people on campus cost us votes in the 2006 election. You have to change people's hearts and calling them all kinds of names when don't even know them isn't the way to do things.
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