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Allstate to stop insuring new N.J. homeowners
msnbc ^ | 12-7-06

Posted on 12/08/2006 6:17:12 AM PST by Hydroshock

NEW YORK - Allstate Corp., the largest publicly traded U.S. home and auto insurer, said Thursday it will stop writing new homeowner policies in New Jersey on Feb. 5, citing concern a hurricane might strike the state.

The state's second-largest home insurer after State Farm said the change will not affect 230,000 homeowners who already have policies with the company.

Allstate will no longer write new policies for owners of homes, condominiums, mobile homes and landlords. It said it will also not renew policies for about 300 commercial customers in eight coastal counties.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: allstate; newjersey
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To: CindyDawg
We (in other states) need to help them fight this. If they can cherry pick in NJ, the next step will probably be Florida and the Gulf States.

Allstate already does in FL. They haven't written new policies in years and they are dropping more and more homeowners every year. All because of hurricane threats.

101 posted on 12/08/2006 8:34:41 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: jalisco555
Unless you can self-insurance for the value of the property, yes, you need to get insurance. The bank will refuse to write a loan if you don't. As for auto insurance, most states require you to carry a minimum liability policy. If you really can't afford the insurance, stop driving a car.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

102 posted on 12/08/2006 8:35:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mewzilla

I am skeptical of the insurance companies is all. They apparently do only want people who will never need their services. Which is fine for them, it's their right, but I think they gouge alot of us whenever possible.

They aren't planning on lowering rates I bet. Since they are eliminating risky clients, the savings are going to profit or the other consumers left?


103 posted on 12/08/2006 8:35:18 AM PST by dogbyte12
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To: dawn53

....Will the rates go down to reflect their savings.....

Of course they will go down. That's the way markets work. Competative pressure will move rates down


104 posted on 12/08/2006 8:35:42 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: goldstategop
The insurance is not there to protect them - its there to protect the lender's interest in the property.

Yes, I know.

105 posted on 12/08/2006 8:35:57 AM PST by laotzu
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To: xarmydog
Its just as well my auto extended warranty company went bankrupt when I sought to file a claim. If we had a choice, we could use the money we pay to insure ourselves for unexpected expenses.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

106 posted on 12/08/2006 8:37:02 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ZULU
Of all the slimeball businesses out there, insurance companies are right up there with oil companies and legal firms.

And used car salesmen.

107 posted on 12/08/2006 8:38:46 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Right... I was asking if AllState was in the Mass. Homeowner's Insurance market.


108 posted on 12/08/2006 8:38:46 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: dogbyte12
Insurance companies ARE in the business of avoiding risk. New computing technology has now made it possible for them to refuse to ensure ANY ONE they think might ever file a claim. That's how they stay in business - by not writing out claims if they don't have to and they will find any excuse to avoid paying you if its legally possible for them to do so.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

109 posted on 12/08/2006 8:39:53 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
most states require you to carry a minimum liability policy

Most states require that you provide evidence of financial responsibility. Insurance is only one of several acceptable methods of doing so.

No state requires/mandates that you carry auto insurance.

110 posted on 12/08/2006 8:41:12 AM PST by laotzu
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Mass? Maine?

There are a number of "M" states.


111 posted on 12/08/2006 8:41:46 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: xarmydog

What amazes me is that these people don't realize how much it costs them over time. When a pad today comes back at a greater amount over the next twenty years. There is something to say for morality.


112 posted on 12/08/2006 8:41:54 AM PST by bmwcyle (The snake is loose in the garden and Eve just bit the apple.)
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To: Sloth

My All State agent is a woman who was once a husband and father and beer drinking buddy of mine. We served as Jaycee directors together and his wife and kids came to the appropriate gatherings.

She is now quite prosperous and when I inadvertantly call her by her man's name she doesn't bat an eye.


113 posted on 12/08/2006 8:42:56 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: jjw
In a free market, there would be a price at which it is viable for all state or any other insurer to sell their services.

This is true, and if someone (government) is mucking up the free market for insurance, it will cause these kinds of problems.

However, insurance companies have an additional problem. They need to spread out their risks, so that no single disaster can affect too large a portion of their client base. This is probably the problem here. Allstate may have too much market penetration in New Jersey.

Of course, there's another way around this problem, it's called reinsurance. That's where an insurance company, that insures other insurance companies, takes on a targeted portion of the risk, to mitigate exactly this kind of problem.

I wonder why Allstate isn't just getting reinsurance for some portion of their home portfolio in New Jersey. Probably government interference.

114 posted on 12/08/2006 8:43:21 AM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: laotzu
You can post a cash bond with your DMV in most states for up to the minimum amount and still drive. If you have that much money on hand of course to post a bond with them.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

115 posted on 12/08/2006 8:44:32 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: 3niner

Spread out the risk and reinsurance are the traditional models. Now insurance companies also like to cherry pick their customers.


116 posted on 12/08/2006 8:45:06 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: television is just wrong
My inlaws have had their house insurance cancelled twice in the last 5 years without filing a claim.

My parents had their insurance canceled when their German Shepard wouldn't allow a snooping company rep in the fenced backyard. The rep had no appointment, no one was home, he just showed up for a look around.

117 posted on 12/08/2006 8:45:22 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: CindyDawg

The government conveniently decided the slaughter on 9-11-01 wasn't an act of war.


118 posted on 12/08/2006 8:46:28 AM PST by Freedom4US (u)
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To: lucysmom
They can cancel you even if you've always paid your premiums and never posed a risk.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

119 posted on 12/08/2006 8:47:04 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: street_lawyer
You can say that about Muslims also. but the ones who are not can sure make up for the good ones.

That may be true, but you can choose not to do business with a bad insurance company.

120 posted on 12/08/2006 8:48:01 AM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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