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To: Hydroshock

You stay home at your own peril in having a seat at the table, because there will be a coalition of voters in 2008 that do support Rudy because of his leadership. A number of evangelicals I know are already supporting him as the person we need to fight the WOT without kumbaya. I live in Oklahoma, am conservative, and will support Rudy along with a lot of people I know.

I heard Rudy speak and Brownback -- give me Rudy any day of the week because he understands how important it is to all of us to take the war to the terrorists. Excuse me but social issues won't amount to a hill of beans if we are attacked and the sooner some of you realize that, the better off we will all be.

Have been through the flame wars on here where a same group of people post the same things on all threads. They are the first to hit the threads with everything from I will stay home and not vote to splitting the party to "Hillary" wouldn't be so bad, etc.

There will be a coalition in 2008 of voters who want a leader and if folks like you want to stay home, there isn't much we can do about it except to reach out to people that understand how national security triumphs every other issue. Learned that at a young age when I left a Church as a teenager because of their kumbaya stand on standing and fighting for our national security instead of rolling over and playing dead because the "communist wouldn't be so bad."

I, for one, will support whoever the nominee of our Party is but will work tirelessly in the primary to elect Rudy. There isn't a candidate in our Party that has announced they have formed an exploratory committee that isn't better than any Democrat. You talk social issues, then help get Ms. Clinton elected by staying home or any other DemocRAT that is running and you will see strict constitutionalist judges replaced by make your own law as you go along judges aka activist judges.

It is your choice to stay home and not vote but as my Dad always said --"If you don't vote in an election, then you need to keep your xxxx mouth shut" -- said it to my Uncle more than once. He fought in Europe in WWII and my grandfather was gassed in WWI and died when my Dad was five. Both men and so many others have fought and continue to fight for our right to vote and to remain a free Country. I take that right seriously and will never say I am staying home and not voting because a candidate does not meet 100% of what I want.


186 posted on 12/08/2006 8:24:45 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Big 12 Champions! Rudy 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

Wow - what a great post -

I cannot say any more than that - what a GREAT POST....


188 posted on 12/08/2006 8:26:22 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: PhiKapMom

I as a Catholic can not support a pro abortion liberal, as a live member of the NRA I can not support an anti gun rino. Both of which are reasons I can not vote for Rino Rudy. If he gets the nod I and many others will go third party.


189 posted on 12/08/2006 8:27:14 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: PhiKapMom
There will be a coalition in 2008 of voters who want a leader and if folks like you want to stay home, there isn't much we can do about it except to reach out to people that understand how national security triumphs every other issue.

Well said. Hopefully, there are enough people left in the USA who still understand the idea--that without national security few other things matter.

202 posted on 12/08/2006 8:39:27 AM PST by Tarheel (The checkered kaffiyeh--the swastika of the 21st century.)
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To: PhiKapMom

very well said PhiKapMom....you do have a way with words:)


373 posted on 12/08/2006 11:03:02 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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