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Rudy's A Down-Hil Racer In Prez Poll (Marist Poll)
NY Daily News ^ | 12/08/06

Posted on 12/08/2006 5:19:56 AM PST by areafiftyone

Hillary may have the buzz, but Rudy has the better poll numbers - at least for now.

A new WNBC/Marist College survey yesterday found that while Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) is the most popular presidential option among Democrats, a whopping 47% of all voters say they would "definitely not" vote for the former First Lady if she runs for President in 2008.

By contrast, a full two-thirds of voters say they remain open to voting for former Mayor Rudy Giuliani - who would best Clinton, 49% to 43%, if the 2008 race were held today.

The numbers suggest that the Republican Giuliani - whose pre-9/11 record remains a blank to most voters - has room to grow, while Clinton begins with nearly half the electorate aligned against her, experts said.

"The bottom line is that there is very little room for error in a Hillary-for-President campaign," says Marist College pollster Lee Miringoff.

Not that Giuliani is without challenges.

The poll found that while Giuliani remains the top pick among GOP voters, a full 47% of those voters - when told that Giuliani is pro-choice, pro-gun control and pro-gay rights - say such issues could be a "major factor" in their eventual decision.

Aides to Giuliani declined to comment on the numbers, but Clinton pollster Mark Penn argued that Clinton has consistently proven she can expand her base of supporters.

"When she started in New York, many people said they'd never vote for her - and she just won reelection with 67% of the electorate," said Penn.

Originally published on December 8, 2006

YOU CAN READ THE WHOLE MARIST POLL HERE CLICK


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To: Hydroshock

Richardson just said he's running for president (of Mexico)


61 posted on 12/08/2006 6:00:16 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

A friend of mine in California recently attended a small meeting of republican supporters in Sacramento. Rudy was there and spoke to the group of about 40 people for over 60 minutes - no notes - Q&A from the audience - and took a lot of hard ball questions - he knocked them all out.

The man has amazing intellect - time is his ally - when it comes to showing people who he is and why he can lead this country.

Even our most right-wing brethren.


62 posted on 12/08/2006 6:01:06 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Hydroshock

Thanks for the ping. The "committed ones" will never see the vast problems of Guiliani both from the electability standpoint as well as the principles standpoint. His only tool is a hammer so he needs every problem to be a nail. Not an unusual mindset for a prosecutor.


63 posted on 12/08/2006 6:01:49 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: areafiftyone

That would be Richardson - the one time professional baseball player - right?

Hmm....


64 posted on 12/08/2006 6:02:00 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Fierce Allegiance
I HATE the Yankees!

So does Hillary.

65 posted on 12/08/2006 6:02:48 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Jake The Goose

I can't wait until he starts campaigning. That guy can draw crowds.


66 posted on 12/08/2006 6:03:19 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: All

Get ready for "President Guiliani". It is has a lot of syllables but its' much better than "President Rodham".


67 posted on 12/08/2006 6:03:42 AM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (It's like a plantation - and you know what I mean!)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

ClarenceThomasfan..

hey - me too !


68 posted on 12/08/2006 6:04:16 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Fresh Wind

LOL, yes, her curse on them is pretty solid.


69 posted on 12/08/2006 6:04:18 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: areafiftyone

If he has his way you will not be able to tell the differnece between old and New Mexico.


70 posted on 12/08/2006 6:05:46 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Jake The Goose
time is his ally

Can time erase his stance on abortion, that he cheated on his wife blatantly, and wants to strip peoples constitutional rights?

71 posted on 12/08/2006 6:06:09 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Yep.


72 posted on 12/08/2006 6:06:38 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Good lord - another demented one.

Let's see..

Did Reagan stop abortion?
Did George HW Bush stop abortion?
Did George W Bush stop abortion?
......abortion is not a Presidents lead concern (my opinion)

Rudy's wife - oh you mean the ex-wife who now runs a sex-advise web site - maybe the man had reason to leave that woman - ever think of that?

Wants to strip peoples constitutional rights? Your truly nuts! Completely out of your friggen mind.

Try a little research - a little intellectual thought and quit posting silly comments.


73 posted on 12/08/2006 6:10:26 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Hydroshock

Well he'll get the Illegal Alien vote LOL!


74 posted on 12/08/2006 6:10:33 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

I will not under any circumstances vote for Rudy. Pro-gay, anti-gun, and anti-life candidates will never get my vote.


75 posted on 12/08/2006 6:12:16 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Old_Mil; areafiftyone
Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action

According to NRO, Rudy ENDED race and sex quotas in city contracting.

76 posted on 12/08/2006 6:12:39 AM PST by freespirited (The MSM is the root of all evil.)
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To: roses of sharon
Is Rudy a ruthless SOB in the WOT?

Compared to McKook with his Terrorist Bill of Rights, how could he not be?

I think Rudy would be an outstanding CinC.

77 posted on 12/08/2006 6:16:08 AM PST by freespirited (The MSM is the root of all evil.)
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To: Jake The Goose

"A lot of people need a lot of education on this man.
"

Some quotes from him

""I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal."

""I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999"

""When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens."

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/17850.html


78 posted on 12/08/2006 6:17:05 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Yeah, but can he sing!


79 posted on 12/08/2006 6:17:54 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Jake The Goose

Great post!


80 posted on 12/08/2006 6:20:19 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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