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Rudy's A Down-Hil Racer In Prez Poll (Marist Poll)
NY Daily News ^ | 12/08/06

Posted on 12/08/2006 5:19:56 AM PST by areafiftyone

Hillary may have the buzz, but Rudy has the better poll numbers - at least for now.

A new WNBC/Marist College survey yesterday found that while Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) is the most popular presidential option among Democrats, a whopping 47% of all voters say they would "definitely not" vote for the former First Lady if she runs for President in 2008.

By contrast, a full two-thirds of voters say they remain open to voting for former Mayor Rudy Giuliani - who would best Clinton, 49% to 43%, if the 2008 race were held today.

The numbers suggest that the Republican Giuliani - whose pre-9/11 record remains a blank to most voters - has room to grow, while Clinton begins with nearly half the electorate aligned against her, experts said.

"The bottom line is that there is very little room for error in a Hillary-for-President campaign," says Marist College pollster Lee Miringoff.

Not that Giuliani is without challenges.

The poll found that while Giuliani remains the top pick among GOP voters, a full 47% of those voters - when told that Giuliani is pro-choice, pro-gun control and pro-gay rights - say such issues could be a "major factor" in their eventual decision.

Aides to Giuliani declined to comment on the numbers, but Clinton pollster Mark Penn argued that Clinton has consistently proven she can expand her base of supporters.

"When she started in New York, many people said they'd never vote for her - and she just won reelection with 67% of the electorate," said Penn.

Originally published on December 8, 2006

YOU CAN READ THE WHOLE MARIST POLL HERE CLICK


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To: Arizona Carolyn

I agree.


481 posted on 12/09/2006 9:07:52 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: JHBowden

I think you will see that under a liberal like Rino Rudy as well. He is not a conservatve so he will nto govern as one.


482 posted on 12/09/2006 9:08:20 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock; JHBowden

It's no use, JH, Hydro refuses to see the forest for the trees and is willing to sell our country down the river for principle.


483 posted on 12/09/2006 9:09:39 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: mariabush

Uhhhhhh... I think they said it would be a "major factor". That is not the same as ruling him out entirely.


484 posted on 12/09/2006 9:10:09 AM PST by soccermom
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To: HostileTerritory

Last election for president the south went in unison for a republican. If Rino Rudy is the nominee I do not think you will see that happen. The republican can not win with out the south.


485 posted on 12/09/2006 9:10:19 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock

We're going to pay a big price for the stupidity of people like you.

President Giuliani will coddle the Islamofascists like the Democrats would? Are you serious?


486 posted on 12/09/2006 9:10:43 AM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Without principles you have nothing.


487 posted on 12/09/2006 9:11:45 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock

You are an idiot.


488 posted on 12/09/2006 9:12:23 AM PST by GoMonster (GO)
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To: Hydroshock

Why would the South vote for Hillary Clinton or another Democrat over any Republican? If the South's voting Democrat, so are more than 270 electoral votes in the rest of the country.

Similarly, if a Democrat screws up so badly as to lose New England states like Maine and Connecticut, he has already lost in the rest of the country.

It's part of being the base, but not typical for the country as a whole.


489 posted on 12/09/2006 9:12:58 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Hydroshock

I'm not necessarily on the Rudy bandwagon, but your forumla presumes that Republican's write off New York and California. Giuliani could take those states.


490 posted on 12/09/2006 9:13:00 AM PST by soccermom
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To: JHBowden

I do not know what he will do, neither do you. He has not real foreign relations experience. We know what he says he will do. But we also know what politico's words are worth.


491 posted on 12/09/2006 9:13:41 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: soccermom

Uggghhhh! I just did one of my pet peeves --- using the possession instead of the plural. My apologies to English teachers everywhere!


492 posted on 12/09/2006 9:14:47 AM PST by soccermom
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To: HostileTerritory

The good news is Rudy would likely give Hillary a run for the money in California and force her to expend a lot of capital in that state for all those electorial votes.


493 posted on 12/09/2006 9:16:22 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Hydroshock

I can refer you to how Rudy has treated the Saudis and terrorists like Yasser Arafat in the past, even in the most liberal city in the country with the Clintons and the New York Slimes attacking him. I can refer you to Giuliani's unequivocal support for the war on terror, his recent slamming of the Iraq Surrender Group (Giuliani was originally on it, but quit since it had an agenda), and his 100% support for President Bush even at a time when everyone is sticking a knife in the President's back.

You are willfully ignorant, my non-Republican friend.


494 posted on 12/09/2006 9:16:51 AM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: Hydroshock

~LOL~ Do you have a clue how many trips he's made to Iraq and other ME countries?


495 posted on 12/09/2006 9:17:18 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Rudy is a putz.

Fierce Allegiance is a one-note samba.

496 posted on 12/09/2006 9:17:51 AM PST by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: Chunga

Bwahahaha! Geez, you are just so profound! I bow to your superiority! NOT!

Get a clue, twinkletoes. You liberals make me puke. FR doen't need your hippy-ass type. Be gone, troll!


497 posted on 12/09/2006 9:20:16 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

So? He has never been in a postion of power involving the war on terror other then a mayor.


498 posted on 12/09/2006 9:21:35 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: GoMonster
You are an idiot.

Wow, what a great debate platform!

If I had to guess, I'd say you are one of those paid democrat operatives coming here to get everyone on the Rudy bandwagon, and silence dissent.

499 posted on 12/09/2006 9:22:12 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: Hydroshock

Yep, Mayor of the largest city in the world.


500 posted on 12/09/2006 9:22:26 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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