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Rudy's A Down-Hil Racer In Prez Poll (Marist Poll)
NY Daily News ^ | 12/08/06

Posted on 12/08/2006 5:19:56 AM PST by areafiftyone

Hillary may have the buzz, but Rudy has the better poll numbers - at least for now.

A new WNBC/Marist College survey yesterday found that while Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) is the most popular presidential option among Democrats, a whopping 47% of all voters say they would "definitely not" vote for the former First Lady if she runs for President in 2008.

By contrast, a full two-thirds of voters say they remain open to voting for former Mayor Rudy Giuliani - who would best Clinton, 49% to 43%, if the 2008 race were held today.

The numbers suggest that the Republican Giuliani - whose pre-9/11 record remains a blank to most voters - has room to grow, while Clinton begins with nearly half the electorate aligned against her, experts said.

"The bottom line is that there is very little room for error in a Hillary-for-President campaign," says Marist College pollster Lee Miringoff.

Not that Giuliani is without challenges.

The poll found that while Giuliani remains the top pick among GOP voters, a full 47% of those voters - when told that Giuliani is pro-choice, pro-gun control and pro-gay rights - say such issues could be a "major factor" in their eventual decision.

Aides to Giuliani declined to comment on the numbers, but Clinton pollster Mark Penn argued that Clinton has consistently proven she can expand her base of supporters.

"When she started in New York, many people said they'd never vote for her - and she just won reelection with 67% of the electorate," said Penn.

Originally published on December 8, 2006

YOU CAN READ THE WHOLE MARIST POLL HERE CLICK


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KEYWORDS: mafiaties; rino
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To: Arizona Carolyn
>>>>Bottom line, is the issues that has most conservatives in a tizzy over Rudy are all issues that are States issues ...

For starters, a conservative Republican as POTUS would be a whole lot better then any liberal. For that matter, there is no difference between a liberal Democrat, or a liberal Republican. The bloated federal bureaucracy is a matter of big government. The Founders never envisoned a federal budget that is 20% of GDP. Right now, abortion rights are based on federal law of Roe V Wade. The 2nd amendments RKBA is based on the Bill of Rights and Constitutional law. Amnesty rights for illegal aliens is being advanced through a federal law. The gay agenda keeps fighting for special rights for homos, based on some equal rights found nowhere in the federal Constitution. What states rights are you talking about?

361 posted on 12/08/2006 10:14:22 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: tkathy

Rudy Rules!


362 posted on 12/08/2006 10:36:44 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: roses of sharon

in spades...remember the what $10 million donation he returned? brass he's got in spades


363 posted on 12/08/2006 10:37:47 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: BunnySlippers

thx bunny slippers:)


364 posted on 12/08/2006 10:39:03 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: areafiftyone

thx:)


365 posted on 12/08/2006 10:41:34 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: areafiftyone

I was there and heard it live......it was Awesome!


366 posted on 12/08/2006 10:43:12 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: Jake The Goose

Jake he will do that I agree


367 posted on 12/08/2006 10:43:52 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: Jake The Goose

I can't wait for him to do that more and more so people can really see him up close and personal....he is the real deal


368 posted on 12/08/2006 10:45:11 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

agreed it does sound great


369 posted on 12/08/2006 10:46:17 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: Hydroshock

I'm a Catholic and Rudy is my guy....he's an amazing man....


370 posted on 12/08/2006 10:50:20 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: Hydroshock

how can he earn your trust if you won't even give him a chance? geezus want some cheese with your whine?


371 posted on 12/08/2006 10:52:41 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Bunny these are great I'm saving them! Thx for sharing:)


372 posted on 12/08/2006 10:56:22 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: PhiKapMom

very well said PhiKapMom....you do have a way with words:)


373 posted on 12/08/2006 11:03:02 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: PhiKapMom

RG gives the other side the willies....they will do anything to take him down


374 posted on 12/08/2006 11:07:28 PM PST by texicali (those than can do!)
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To: My GOP

I am sure he will send one to you as well for supportin such an unelectable rino as Rudy.


375 posted on 12/09/2006 2:15:43 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: texicali

I ahe looked at his record and his previous speeches. That is why I know on the social issues I support he and Hitlery are almost in lockstep. I will not vote for a liberal no matter what letter he has by his name.


376 posted on 12/09/2006 2:20:06 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: texicali

BARF!


377 posted on 12/09/2006 3:13:12 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: texicali; mariabush

He is the real deal, a real liberal Rino who no self respecting conservative would ever support.


378 posted on 12/09/2006 4:05:50 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock

Exactly!


379 posted on 12/09/2006 4:21:28 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: Reagan Man

". With FR being the internets premier conservative website, I'm in my right as a conservative, to disagree with your support for a liberal politico like, Rudy Giuliani."

I never said you didn't have the right to disagree. Its very clear to anyone with half a brain I've never said you can't disagree with me. Its the manner in which you disagree. The problem is you act like a jerk when you disagree. There is no reason for you to act like jerk and get all nasty when you disagree. Disagree, fine, but do it in a mannerly fashion.

"I'm not about to throw my conservative principles away, just because you've lost your mind."

I'm not throwing my conservative principles away either. Go reread post 312. Its very accurate. I've lost my mind?!?!?! Now you owe me two apologies.

"WTF! Where on this thread have you apologized for dragging my Mother into this debate? Never happened. You still owe me an apology."

You never apologized for acting like a jerk for the last two weeks. The only reason I said what I said about you not getting enough love as a child is because of you acting like a jerk for the last two weeks. You provoked me into saying it. Apologize for being a jerk and I'll apologize.


380 posted on 12/09/2006 5:43:49 AM PST by My GOP
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