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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday December 7th
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 12-07-2006

Posted on 12/07/2006 8:49:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie

http://billroggio.com/archives/2006/12/the_military_and_the.php

The Military and The Media

The divide grows

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: I've completed the first leg of the journey to Iraq, after having moved through Dubai, Kuwait and Baghdad. I am now at Camp Fallujah. While in Fallujah, I'll embed with a Marine Police Transition Team (PTT) and also meet with the Civil Affairs Group. The next stop will be Ramadi.

The trip - from my front door to Fallujah - took 3 ½ days, accounting for the 8 hour time shift between the East Coast and Iraq. This is remarkable considering Iraq is a war zone. I spent all of 35 minutes in the Green Zone getting my ID badge and another two hours waiting for a flight to Fallujah. Most of the time was spent waiting at military airbases, trying to catch that next flight out on a plane or helicopter.

During my movement to Fallujah, I was on 3 bases and one camp: At Ali Al Salem (Kuwait), BIAP (Baghdad International Airport), Camp Stryker, and LZ Washington (inside the Green Zone).

The travel is long, and it can be boring if you let it get to you. But you're surrounded by a bunch of soldiers, Marines and contractors that are also traveling, many of them alone. They are either coming back from or going on leave, or moving into or out of the region. Most of them are quite friendly and happy to strike up a conversation. This is an interesting time to speak to them, because they are not as engrossed in the daily grind of Iraq as they are when I see them while I'm embedded. Here is a brief overview of some of the discussions I had with those I met while shuttling around Kuwait and Iraq.

Ali Al Salem:

At the transient tent (where you get to sleep and store your gear while waiting), I spoke to an Explosive Ordinance and Demolitions (EOD) contractor. These are the guys that blow up the leftover explosives and munitions from the Saddam era. He told me about how the media isn't telling the full story about the nature of the enemy, and specifically complained about the manipulation and distortion of the Kay report. He said he's run across bunkers and the equipment and chemical precursors to WMD buried in the deserts of western Iraq.

During a smoke break, an Army private discussed his time in Balad. He said mortars (which are blind-fired) are the greatest threat his unit faces. Not IEDs, I asked? Nope. While waiting to board the flight to BIAP, a Marine Major complained about how the progress in western Iraq has virtually gone unnoticed, and was furious over the characterization of the Devlin report on Anbar province. I gave him my card.

BIAP:

I had the pleasure being the only person on the shuttle bus from BIAP to Camp Stryker, and the driver, an Army specialist, struck up a conversation with me. I needed a SIM chip for my cell phone so I could call the States and in Iraq, so he took me across the base on some extremely bumpy roads looking for a place that sold them. During the drive, he explained his forays into Sadr City, how the residents were largely hostile to U.S. forces, and some engagements he's encountered. Yet he spoke admirably of the Iraqi people. He said they were hard working and willing to fight, and hoped we wouldn't abandon the Iraqi people.

We couldn't find an open store that sold the SIM chip, so he kindly offered to give me his as he knew I was desperate. I paid him for the card and a little extra to call home. He said he'll get a new card tomorrow.

Camp Stryker:

While waiting to catch the flight to the Green Zone, I spoke to two Army captains, one who works in Civil Affairs, the other with the Military Transition Teams. Both explained how the situation could look very different based on your job, but that the Iraqi police and Army were making real progress. They said the Iraqis' skills ranged from poor to excellent, but they always saw improvement.

I also overheard an Army specialist sitting behind me curse the media (and I mean curse), saying they didn't know what they were talking about when it came to Iraq. I talked to him, and explained I'm considered a reporter, and that I won't argue with his points. I made him uncomfortable. Had he known I was 'the press' I think he would have kept it to himself.

LZ Washington:

While waiting to manifest on the flight to Fallujah, CNN played a news segment of President Bush announcing there would be no “graceful exit” from Iraq, and that we'd stay until the mission was complete. Two sergeants in the room cheered. Loudly. They then scoffed at the reports from Baghdad, and jeered the balcony reporting.

In nearly every conversation, the soldiers, Marines and contractors expressed they were upset with the coverage of the war in Iraq in general, and the public perception of the daily situation on the ground. They felt the media was there to sensationalize the news, and several stated some reporters were only interested in “blood and guts.” They freely admitted the obstacles in front of them in Iraq. Most recognized that while we are winning the war on the battlefield, albeit with difficulties in some areas, we are losing the information war. They felt the media had abandoned them.

During each conversation, I was left in the awkward situation of having to explain that while, yes, I am wearing a press badge, I'm not 'one of them.' I used descriptions like 'independent journalist' or 'blogger' in an attempt to separate myself from the pack.

What a terrible situation to be in, having to defend yourself because of your profession. I've always said that the hardest thing about embedding (besides leaving my family) is wearing the badge that says 'PRESS.' That hasn't changed. I hide the badge whenever I can get away with it.

This isn't the first time I encountered this sentiment from the troops. I experienced this attitude from the Marines while I was in western Iraq last year, and the soldiers in the Canadian Army in Afghanistan also expressed frustration with the media's presentation of the war.

Perhaps this tension between the media and the military is nothing new. But it appalls me none the less.


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To: Clint N. Suhks

The old ones are always the best!

"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure"
— Jacques Chirac, President of France
"As far as France is concerned, you're right."
— Rush Limbaugh,

http://www.backwoodshome.com/humor/salutetofrance.html


221 posted on 12/07/2006 10:47:31 AM PST by UKRaddell (I might be movin' to Montana soon)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Hiya mate.


222 posted on 12/07/2006 10:48:03 AM PST by UKRaddell (I might be movin' to Montana soon)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Thanks


223 posted on 12/07/2006 10:48:15 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Happy 200th Birthday Robert E. LEE)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Much snow by you?


224 posted on 12/07/2006 10:48:38 AM PST by Roccus (Dealing with Politicians IS the War on Terror.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Aha! The mystery is solved. I love Free Republic!


"Those Bloody Cheese eatin' Surrender Monkeys!!!"
225 posted on 12/07/2006 10:48:40 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Roccus

Nah how about you?


226 posted on 12/07/2006 10:49:16 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Happy 200th Birthday Robert E. LEE)
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To: MNJohnnie

I like it - I like it a lot.


227 posted on 12/07/2006 10:49:17 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: UKRaddell
In world war 2, your guys fought for freedom. Our guys fought for the freedom to be dictated to by someone who wasn't called Adolf.

LOL! Now THAT statement might get posted on my home page.
228 posted on 12/07/2006 10:49:26 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Sorry soldiers.....your country let you down on November 7.)
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To: mewzilla

Bumper music sounds like "Little Bird" from "Man of LaMancha". Love it.


229 posted on 12/07/2006 10:49:29 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: rottndog

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me."
— General George S. Patton


230 posted on 12/07/2006 10:49:36 AM PST by UKRaddell (I might be movin' to Montana soon)
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To: Kerretarded
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1749978/posts?page=1

James Baker's New Test In Diplomacy [Bush Spokesman: "Jim Baker can go back to his day job."}



BTW, his day job is being the Saudi's US mouthpiece in DC.

Take that John McCain. This "Iraq Study Group" was suppose to be his launch platform for 2008. He were suppose to be able to ride in and claim he "fixed Iraq". Seem the only thing he fixed was his political death. Way to piss off EVERYONE on the Right yet again John McCain!

Seems the only thing with a shorter less successful flight time then a North Korean missile is John McCain's for President 2008 liftoff

231 posted on 12/07/2006 10:49:46 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Gave up filling my tag today. Near white-out conditions right now.


232 posted on 12/07/2006 10:50:10 AM PST by Roccus (Dealing with Politicians IS the War on Terror.)
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To: UKRaddell
Is Blair going to get tough with the Russians?
233 posted on 12/07/2006 10:50:24 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Happy 200th Birthday Robert E. LEE)
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To: MNJohnnie
We need a Pearl Harbor? WTF was 9/11?

The difference,IMHO, is that while the 1940 congress had their collective heads up their arse, the American people were more "insecure" and felt the Pearl Harbor attack was an attack not to be sloughed off as a one-of. There was also a traditional war raging in Europe and China on every one's mind. The global war had now come to us

So do we need another Pearl to wake up that American mass? My answer is yes, sadly

234 posted on 12/07/2006 10:50:26 AM PST by llevrok (When you outlaw flying carpets, only Terrorists will fly planes.)
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To: Kerretarded
They also gave us Catherina Zeta Jones and Elizabeth Hurley
235 posted on 12/07/2006 10:50:52 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Roccus

I herd snow shoe is getting 3 to 5 inches


236 posted on 12/07/2006 10:51:23 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Happy 200th Birthday Robert E. LEE)
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To: Fawn
It started with the Simpsons.
237 posted on 12/07/2006 10:51:46 AM PST by sono (Ted Nugent For UN Ambassador)
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To: MNJohnnie

Do not allow civilian traffic for a brief period of time.


238 posted on 12/07/2006 10:51:51 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Sorry soldiers.....your country let you down on November 7.)
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To: mewzilla

I get him later...is he referencing the two articles that were posted here last night??

That some dems met secretly with Hamas...and gave them money?


239 posted on 12/07/2006 10:51:52 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Fawn

I think it was Robin Williams who called the French "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys" in his act.


240 posted on 12/07/2006 10:52:38 AM PST by hattend (Carpe Macaca)
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