[rbmillerjr]

Guys, you are deluding yourselves. The American people have lost this war despite our incredible military victory.

We are in the "peace with honor stage" now.
The election. The report.

I wish the fat lady were singing, but unfortunately we had to go through this whole waste-of-life stage now.

[advertising guy]

bull shit.tell that to a soldier in the middle east. Tell that to a pro athlete at the end of the 3td quarter. Dubya has not backed down one damned inch and YOU CANNOT show one inch different

[Reagan Man]

The invasion of Iraq was a success. The policing and rebuilding of Iraq has been less then successful, so far. The ISG-Baker/Hamilton seems to be saying, we should get out before the job is done. At this point, that would be the wrong decision to make. I only wish Bush could express himself to American people better at this critical stage. On election day the American voters said its time for a change in Iraq. At this point, the President has offered nothing new for the American people to see as advancing a final victory. Staying the course is not the answer. Enough political correctness, its time to do whatever it takes to win in Iraq.

[roses of sharon]

Of course you are correct, and most here agree.

But that is no reason for us to to give up. We must keep fighting, putting pressure on those in Congress who will listen, putting pressure on the Pres to not give up, pressure on newsmedia, pressure on conservative radio ect.

The Dems constituencies NEVER give up, why should we?

[ohioWfan]

Is this wishful thinking on your part?

Because it doesn't bear any resemblance to the truth....

[OldFriend]

We don't need the fat lady, you'll do!