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To: Axenolith

Exactly what is "national sovereignity" when an agency of force arbitrarily declares some portion of the open seas theirs. That is piracy itself. No one owns or has a right to control by force anything they have not earned or produced by their own effort. Let the Aussies catch the sharks and fish, then thy own them, otherwise they are nobodies property, and to claim them without earning the right to them is theft.

Hank


30 posted on 12/06/2006 8:33:49 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief
National Sovereignity is what it is. While I agree with the libertarian concept you're espousing, humans have been gathering in "sovereign" groups for a hell of a lot of years.

Non initiation of force might be a cool goal within a sovereign group that hasn't been dumb enough to collectively disarm itself (i.e. is strong enough to resist all of the other sovereign groups around it), but to even think for a moment that it's a conceivable philosophy with respect to other large "sovereignities" is just mental masturbation. As another poster put it, where do you draw the line? Is is OK if they peacefully just fish but not steal your cattle? The same concept applies to the cattle. By what "right" did someone make them theirs? Obviously, they were just "appropriated" at some time from nature. So was the steel in your car, mind if I just "take it for a spin"?...

39 posted on 12/06/2006 9:02:57 PM PST by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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To: Hank Kerchief
Then of course, you wouldn't object to folks entering your property to take anything they may be interested in having....

INTERNATIONAL bodies have designated the sea and all within it within a certain distance from shore - to be the sovereign property of that nation...

Dab your tearful eyes with your "Hank Kerchief" and accept what has LONG been international law..

Semper Fi
47 posted on 12/06/2006 11:18:46 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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