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Mary Cheney and Partner Are About to Be Moms
Washington Post ^ | December 6, 2006 | Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts

Posted on 12/05/2006 11:04:34 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: dayglored
While I don't think it's my place to judge, I do feel that Mary's child will not do as well as if s/he had a father around.

The kid, like any other kid would be a more well-rounded person in later life if it was immersed in both the male and female influences. The male society has already been neutered to a larger extent, thanks in large part to the radical feminist movement that preceeded the sexual revolution of the 1960's. Turn a TV on these days, and it's not hard to see that guys either sound effeminate or act effeminate. This country will be in a long struggle for as long as it's moral compass continues to be out of whack. It'll take a movement much like a nationwide church revival to knock the moral compass back in the right direction. Until that time comes, this country will continue in a slow downward spiral.

61 posted on 12/06/2006 12:49:33 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: ridge

I think you need to ask a different questions:

How many have a mom and dad (really present)
How many have just a mom
How many have just a dad
How many have two moms
How many have two dads

I am not trying to be a lib here. Look at my other posts.

I work for three people:

A single man (no kids - straight, divorced)
A mom with dad (beautiful baby boy)
A dad with dad (yup - 2 men with a beautiful baby girl)

I think you're going to see a generational change here. There are too many people who are encountering these events.


62 posted on 12/06/2006 12:50:47 AM PST by paulat (about)
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To: ridge
> She took a baby from a potential mom and dad.

No she didn't, she created her own -- she's pregnant, not adopting. Any potential mom and dad who want a kid can either have one themselves, or adopt one of the millions of kids without moms and dads. Her gain is not at the loss of any other potential parent.

That said, IMO the biological father loses out because he doesn't get to raise his offspring; and the child loses out because s/he won't have a father (although grandfather Dick will stand in admirably I'm sure). But your statement just doesn't make sense, because she didn't "take" anything from anybody.

63 posted on 12/06/2006 12:52:28 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: hunter112
> There are loads of fatherless children, some male relative or close friend makes up the difference.

That's true, and it can provide a huge benefit in the child's life. I don't doubt that Dick Cheney will provide plenty of male influence in that child's life.

64 posted on 12/06/2006 12:55:41 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind


65 posted on 12/06/2006 12:57:18 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: BigSkyFreeper
> The male society has already been neutered to a larger extent, thanks in large part to the radical feminist movement that preceeded the sexual revolution of the 1960's. Turn a TV on these days, and it's not hard to see that guys either sound effeminate or act effeminate.

I haven't had a TV in the house since 1975, but I know what you mean. It drives me crazy that there aren't many decent male role models in the media.

> It'll take a movement much like a nationwide church revival to knock the moral compass back in the right direction.

While I agree that most religions provide good moral guidance, I don't think I want that done on a nationwide basis, because that would unavoidably get entangled with the government, and I don't want the government having anything to do with religion (mine or anyone else's).

Instead, I would like to see the various disparate parts of the country develop more responsible attitudes based on the folks in those areas (yeah, I'm a believer in states' rights and old-style federalism). Certainly religion has a strong place there, but it shouldn't be a national religion.

66 posted on 12/06/2006 1:00:48 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

"...nor abusers of themselves with mankind."
__________________________________
ABUSERS = PERVERTS.
So sicko.


67 posted on 12/06/2006 1:01:08 AM PST by cowdog77 ("Are there any brave men left in Washington or are they all cowards?")
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To: dayglored
Instead, I would like to see the various disparate parts of the country develop more responsible attitudes based on the folks in those areas (yeah, I'm a believer in states' rights and old-style federalism). Certainly religion has a strong place there, but it shouldn't be a national religion.

Yeah, I agree. But I will add that this country needs to get back to the roots of the Founding Father's. America has strayed too far off course for far too long as far as morals and values go.

I consider myself a devout Christian, but I do realize there is going to be a natural give-and-take.

68 posted on 12/06/2006 1:08:44 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Cross file this one under:

-News of the weird
-Clever uses for turkey basters


69 posted on 12/06/2006 1:12:05 AM PST by dennisw
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To: BigSkyFreeper
> ... I will add that this country needs to get back to the roots of the Founding Father's. America has strayed too far off course for far too long as far as morals and values go.

I agree. The writings of the Founders are full of good guidance, and I wish it were more widely known and taught. Our present culture has little regard for its roots.

> I consider myself a devout Christian, but I do realize there is going to be a natural give-and-take.

The Christian and Deist beliefs of the Founders would serve well as examples today. There are also a lot of non-Christians who have good moral grounding and can provide sustenance to the recovery of our national moral situation.

It's more difficult without a state-imposed or state-sponsored religion, but it's better if done with regard for the huge range of legitimate beliefs in America.

IMO the toughest task is respecting legitimate differences, without also allowing the crackpots and weirdos to run the show by default, which is some of how we got to where we are now.

70 posted on 12/06/2006 1:16:30 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Cheney has described her relationship with Poe -- whom she took to last year's White House dinner honoring Prince Charles and Camilla-- as a marriage.

Unintended irony!

71 posted on 12/06/2006 1:22:17 AM PST by iowamark
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To: dennisw
> -Clever uses for turkey basters

Clever, yes, but hardly novel. I recall discussions of the turkey baster method in the 1960's. It's been the canonical "self-insemination" method for as long as I've been aware of the topic.

72 posted on 12/06/2006 1:25:23 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
Cheney, 37, was a key aide to her father during the 2004 reelection campaign and now is vice president for consumer advocacy at AOL. Poe, 45, a former park ranger, is renovating their Great Falls home.

Nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk...wonder who's the femme here?

73 posted on 12/06/2006 1:31:56 AM PST by dennisw
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To: knarf
Lawdy lawdy lawdy ...

That looks like the Minneapolis's' fire chief's brother or sister

74 posted on 12/06/2006 1:34:04 AM PST by dennisw
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To: blondee123

I agree with every word of that post


75 posted on 12/06/2006 1:38:30 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: West Coast Conservative

:(


76 posted on 12/06/2006 1:39:56 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Dallas59

I agree this is going to get some bad publicity unfortunately at the end of the day she is a grown women and what she does at that age should not affect her father but the anti Cheney camp (on both sides) will have a field day.

The Cheney family are class and do not shove anything down ones throat only support and love their children equally like me most people on FR probably do not agree with Mary Cheney's life style and choices but respect the way the family has handled this over the years.


77 posted on 12/06/2006 1:42:00 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: SoCalPol

Indeed again may not agree with this situation but there are worse ones for children.


78 posted on 12/06/2006 1:42:47 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: paulat

Yes and no because I fear more fall out on this one


79 posted on 12/06/2006 1:44:27 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: dennisw
> ...wonder who's the femme here?

Mary's very lovely. Beyond that it's none of my business. ;-)

(That's not to say I can't speculate on the prospects of "Hot Republican Girl-on-Girl Action" at the next convention.)

80 posted on 12/06/2006 1:45:53 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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