Can Democracy Be Imposed? Not in Muslim countries.

Islam-Watch ^ | 06 Dec, 2006 | Alamgir Hussain

[Ahussain]

Folks, the al-Qaeda propagandist is here again. With the same message: 'stay away from Islamic countries' ----------

It appears to be impossible to institute freedom and democracy and the rule of law in Muslim countries. Such effort, in stead of bringinging peace and prosperity, bring more troubes for the world. We must understand the underlying reasons first before taking such disastrous measures in the future>>>

[Mr. Mojo]

Such effort, in stead of bringinging peace and prosperity, bring more troubes for the world.

Example: The election of Hamas to power.

[MarkL]

IIRC, the same thing was said about Japan after WWII. Funny how they took to it when it was forced on them. It's a shame we didn't use the same technique in Iraq from day 1.

Mark

[roses of sharon]

Well, you do have a choice, civilize yourself and your children, or die.

When America elects a ruthless SOB for President, in the years to come, he will unleash hell.

[NicknamedBob]

A more dehumanizing, stultifying program of social degradation than Islam has never been developed.

Our American innovators, Jim Jones and Charles Manson are infantile amateurs in comparison to Mohammed.

They reject reason, abjure friendship, mock honesty, and deny humanity to anyone who lacks the smell of their particular anthill.

They can only be saved by the Coulter Extreme Love Operation.

[GSlob]

"A more dehumanizing, stultifying program of social degradation than Islam has never been developed."
Communism.

[pinkpanther111]

I don't think its possible. In Japan you didn't have to deal with that religion of peace, ISLAM.

ISLAM is incompatible with democracy, unless you can get the Iraqi's to drop this as the national religion they will never be successful in building a true democracy.

[NicknamedBob]

Communism only sought to enslave the body.

Islam enslaves the mind.

[Seruzawa]

A more dehumanizing, stultifying program of social degradation than Islam has never been developed.

Ever looked at an inner city? A public scool? I'd say that behavioral "science" is at least as deadly as Islam. More so since it masquerades as something scientific..... well I guess it is scientific if you want a repeatable set of rules and procedures that can be used create social disaster.

[MarkL]

I don't think its possible. In Japan you didn't have to deal with that religion of peace, ISLAM.

ISLAM is incompatible with democracy, unless you can get the Iraqi's to drop this as the national religion they will never be successful in building a true democracy.

You need to remember that the ruling class in Japan was a military cult which saw the Emporer as a deity, as did the population. I think that the main reason we were successful is that we actually defeated... No, we crushed them. It's a shame we didn't do the same in Iraq.

Mark

[goodnesswins]

We won't have a "ruthless President" until a nuclear bomb goes off in a major American city....IMHO.

[pinkpanther111]

No, we crushed them. It's a shame we didn't do the same in Iraq.

This I absolutely agree with. We didn't do a complete job, even though it was clearly stated that politics would not interfere, It did. Al-Sadr still alive and walking around is proof of that!

[Plains Drifter]

Bump

[NicknamedBob]

Some of the same elements exist in inner city public schools. The urge to conformity, even when conformity leads to stagnation. A fearfulness to punish incompetence.

But it is not prosecuted with, shall I say, the same religious fervor.

[sageb1]

"Can Democracy Be Imposed? Not in Muslim countries."

This one is more imortant to me:

Can Islam be imposed in "democracies?"

[alecqss]

The problem with imposing democracy in Iraq is ... that we did not impose democracy. We're just politely waiting for Iraqis to develop it themselves.

[GSlob]

"Communism only sought to enslave the body. Islam enslaves the mind."
Spoken with a true lack of knowledge and experience. I happen to have been born and grown up in the thucking USSR. If it is "body only", and not the spirit as well, please explain the putinism and its local popularity there. Communism is a way of life, and not the red banners. And as a comprehensive way of life, it did not have, or knew, boundaries to its claims.

[Loud Mime]

Emperor Hirohito told the Japanese to surrender. There's no similar act on behalf of the muslim savages.

[Seruzawa]

But it is not prosecuted with, shall I say, the same religious fervor.

True. They just drug the non-conformists to death. And then call the schools "Drug Free Zones" while doing it. (Irony meter pegging.)

[Zack Nguyen]

It appears to be impossible to institute freedom and democracy and the rule of law in Muslim countries...

I don't know if I'd call it "impossible." Turkey, after all, has a democracy, requiring a quick tune-up in the form of a military coup every so often. Not terribly stable, but they do have elections.

I believe Indonesia is democratic too, with some problems in the religious freedom department.

So we could conclude that Islam and democracy do not mix like gangbusters, but not that it is "impossible."