[metmom]

He'd have been better off staying with his family. Hindsight is 20/20. Prayers that he is found soon and safe.

[metmom]

Sounds like he needs some prayer right now.

[DumpsterDiver]

A good place to get frequent updates is at the website the family has set up at www.jamesandkati.com.

12/5/06 - 7:30am - We're up and hoping for good news, anxiously awaiting the success of the search and rescue team. I was able to speak with Kati briefly last night and she is in good spirits, worried and waiting, but joking with me in only the way that Kati can. The girls are in great shape.

The Kim and Fleming's primary concern now is to reunite the family. Kati's mother, father and brother should be travelling to Oregon today to be with the family.

I spoke off camera with one of the interviewers yesterday and we talked about how easy it is sometimes to be cynical in life, but how something like this really shows the true heart of people everywhere. There were so many times these few days where emails from people out there have had us crying and tearing up because of the sheer amount of love expressed - in many cases for a family they don't even know. It has really kept us going and *IS* keeping us going.

Thank you again for all of the support and to all of the people up in Oregon finding James right now.

[CertainInalienableRights]

This is a good time to think about putting a few things in the trunk of the car for emergencies if you live in (or travel to) areas with snow potential.

I bought a couple of cheap vinyl bags at a discount store. Put in a blanket, a light, but warm jacket that's "squishable", some candles, lighter, matches. An old coffee can (to put the candle in), some canned food (and can opener), working flashlight, some basic tools (including a collapsible shovel), flares, etc. I can take the bags of winter stuff out in the summer, or transfer them to another vehicle.

It isn't even a bad snow you have to worry about - fuel pumps, just as an example, can often die without warning leaving your car essentially dead. If you're in the middle of nowhere in the winter, the car's going to get cold fast. Even if you're in the city, if its a bad night, you may have to wait hours for a tow.

I had a starter give up the ghost at a Home Depot when it was bitterly cold. I walked out of the store as they were closing. By the time I figured out what was going on, the doors were locked and no one was up front. Late at night, in a large shopping area, there's no place to walk to - just vast empty, windy parking lots and empty stores. I waited 2 1/2 hours for a tow that night because the cold had disabled a lot of vehicles. Luckily, I had a cell phone on me and some of the above provisions, but it was still a long, cold wait and that was in a major metropolitan area - not the middle of nowhere.

[Rte66]

We've been following this story on these two threads:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1746739/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1748417/posts

[Uncle Hal]

How do you burn tires?

[Uncle Hal]

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/12/05/MNGTBMPI9U1.DTL&type=printable
Safety tips when traveling

[Elsie]

Their car was 15 miles from Bear Camp Road when found.

???

How can THIS be when they TURNED onto BCR???

[BunnySlippers]

Thjey just said on the lastest press conf that they were not able to usee the horses or dogs due to the terrain.

And that they have tracked him to the Rouge River.

[Mercat]

Didn't this same thing happen in the same area about a year ago?

[SteveH]

He should have been found within hours of the finding of his spouse and kids, if he was capable and in control of the situation.

In the wilderness, you can't rely on maps to the point where you lose control of the situation, or let reliance on technology override prudence and common sense.

Lose control of the situation, and the situation controls you.

[Conservomax]

He should have stayed where he was, and maybe done something to attract attention, like if you had the means, burn the spare tire setting off a column of black smoke.