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To: bimbo
Let's start a ping list like the gun ping list......

when decisions like this are made and the criminals murder and rape with the aid of judges let's expose them... it's easy enough to find names and photos....

I think it would be a public service....

Any Freeper interest???

13 posted on 12/05/2006 6:12:16 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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"All over the country, news stories bemoan and hype the countdown to execution number 1,000. But where are the stories regarding the ripple effects of the heinous crimes that these murderers were executed for committing? Who is counting the victims?

A conservative estimate puts the number of victims of these 1,000 murderers at 1,895. Why do we hear so much about the killers and so little about the victims and their loved ones who are left behind to pick up the pieces?"


Defending the Defenseless
There's a reason these people are in prison

Posted: May 7th, 2006 12:21 AM PDT

DAVE LIEZEN
Corrections Contributor
Officer.com

The media seems to play an increasing role in public perception of criminals. Does watching Judge Judy or televised rallies in support of death row inmates make stars of people we really don't want home for dinner?

Early this year "Tookie" Williams , co-founder of the Crips gang, met his end, despite Hollywood hoopla and nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize. Some folks who are dead set against the death penalty made him their poster boy.

Who are they defending?

In this land of the Stars and Stripes we find a bid to create stars of the fellas who used to wear stripes.

"Tookie" might be the most famous example lately. Credited with writing books for children about the life of gangsters, and a cautionary book for teens called "Life In Prison," "Tookie's" story became a TV documentary of sorts. Demonstrations led by the rich and famous brought him further media exposure, calling for Governor Schwarzenegger to commute his death sentence to life without parole.

Why?

Curious about Tookie's rep, I visited the local mega-bookseller and found some of his books. Those aimed at children were entitled "Tookie Williams and Drugs," "Tookie...and Guns" and the like. The theme was, "Don't play with ________, you could get hurt." That, and plenty of photos of buff Tookie made me question their effectiveness in capturing and influencing young readers. Even if he were to become a household word, most kids I know respond poorly to anyone talking down to them. Most adults, for that matter.

"Life In Prison" stood in the Teens section. A slender volume, I found a chair and read it through. Its message was much the same: Don't do things that will put you in this bad place. Tookie complained that prison was boring, confined and the meals uninspired.

Since he'd been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, I looked again for evidence of a change of heart and direction. Maybe he'd invoked a higher calling, promoted a vision to transform the sorry plight of children born into his 'hood, tackled the problem of hit and run paternity, or just pointed to the promises of education and hard work to benefit young men and their loved ones. Nope. Just the whining we've all heard inside prison walls.

He didn't even go so far as to say he did wrong.

This was the poster child for the Death to the Death Penalty camp? I conclude his name came up due to his visibility as a prime Cripster—that the death penalty is their real concern, not Tookie.

Not everyone campaigns against the death penalty. The voters in Wisconsin may soon have opportunity to reinstate it there. Rumor has it Joe Sixpack waited a long time for this, nearly 150 years, and stands poised to approve it.

What is the popular appeal? Could it be the threat of recidivism? That criminals guilty of capital crimes commit no more capital crimes when the state, through due process, puts an end to their wicked ways? That maybe somebody would think twice before doing something heinous, knowing the possible consequences? Perhaps a gut-level recognition of justice served in cases of death, rape and dismemberment?

I, for one, have seen plenty of inmates serving "life without." They don't bear up very well over the decades, some developing irrational fears or paranoia. Some were manic depressive/bi-polar or suffering other disorders, dependent upon psychotropic drugs to maintain a semblance of normalcy. Few admitted their guilt, ignoring the length of their rap sheets or the depth of their criminal behavior. Too often, they're so bound to depraved attitudes and habits they must be kept in max units and isolation.

Anyone who's read their jackets or warehoused these guys for long knows habitual criminals are typically a danger to themselves and everyone else.

And I won't even go into the cost to government and the taxpayer except to ask, "Why should we propose to maintain them until (natural) death do us part? Why leave the door open for them to do another capital crime?"

Before I joined corrections, I felt vaguely that some crimes deserved the death sentence. The Joint taught me greater certainty. It became a conviction When I found that fully a third of the inmates I managed were guilty of capital crimes. True, this was a Joint, no camp. When manning a gun post, my fear and dread for the safety of any of the families living within walking distance kept me alert to possible escape. Midway through my career an escapee (from another Joint) found refuge at a farm house. He left an entire family of 5 dead the following morning.

Not on my watch; not in my area.

Perhaps it seems callous to support executions. I admit, it isn't pretty.

At issue here is the weight of deeds, both the potential for greater evil and for the greater good. But the sentiment Al Capp expressed through his character, Mammy Yokum, "Good is better than evil, because it's nicer," befits a comic strip, not real life. Good needs to be more than nice, because evil isn't swayed by niceties.

For Good to be good requires strength: of conviction; of power to be reckoned with; of duty to those to be protected; of a humble sense of limitations. To administer justice imperfectly does not excuse us from the attempt.

Dave Liezen hails from the northern Midwest and grew up on the West Coast. A lifelong musician, he studied education and music at Pacific Lutheran University without finishing. From there he supported his family as a correctional officer in California while George Deukmejian was governor. Dave resumed studies at Whitworth College, earning a BA in English. He resides with his family in Washington State.

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21 posted on 12/05/2006 7:14:20 AM PST by KeyLargo
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