Posted on 12/04/2006 3:34:17 PM PST by FreedomCalls
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- One of the teenagers responsible for beating a Holly Hill homeless man to death asked a judge to reduce his 22-year prison sentence Monday. Warren Messner and three other teens pled guilty to killing the man because they were bored, but Messner said prison is too hard.
Messner is a big boy. He was 15 at the time he was brought into the woods to see the homeless man his friends had been beating. Even at that young age, he outweighed the victim, Michael Roberts, by 200 pounds when he jumped on his chest, crushing his ribcage. Roberts died.
"Did you feel bad when you are doing it?" Messner was asked during questioning.
"Not really, no," he replied.
He didn't feel bad then, but he does now. He has been in juvenile detention for eight months, locked in a small cell and occasionally allowed to go to class.
Messner and his attorney said he has already learned his lesson and is ready to go home to help others. ...
"He's not getting the mental health, the schooling. He's not getting anything, anything but locked in a cell all day long," Lori Messner [his mother] said.
The judge and the state both argued that being deprived services and being locked away is precisely the point of prison. Warren Messner will spend the next 22 years in prison without the chance for parole.
(Excerpt) Read more at wftv.com ...
Yabbut there's only so many hours a day you can do that. Even at his age.
The kid is what, 16 and a bit?
He had better be spending time in the weight room getting bulked up for when he gets to a real, hard core prision.
If he'd been busted for selling pot for the third time he could have gotten 55 years.
Can't he get a bubba?
"He's not getting the mental health, the schooling. He's not getting anything, anything but locked in a cell all day long," Lori Messner [his mother] said. "
Um I kinda think that is the whole point. And if I remember rightly education is made available to inmates as is physical and psychological health services. But even if it is true that he is just languishing in his cell, poor baby. We know one other thing he is not getting and that is a chance to kill another person.
So mom if you think prison is too hard for your son be grateful at least you still have him around. Which can not be said for the victim's family. But I can tell by your words that the apple did not fall far from the tree. Whiny moms who always think the law, school, community are picking on their child do a good job of rearing criminals.
Unfortunately, that's not far from the truth.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
He's young meat and will be highly desirable in the open prison population when he gets there.
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Look at that fat slob. Even as hard up as those cons are I think he is pretty safe.
Just going to jail is too good for them.
Watch the video at the link, if you haven't already. She shows up right at the end.
He'll probably be transferred to adult jail at 18. In some states, like CA, its 25.
Look at the upside punk, in 22 years, Playstation 3's will be really cheap.
"And if I remember rightly education is made available to inmates as is physical and psychological health services."
Trust me, if he wasn't receiving those services, Alberto Gonzales, our US Atty Gen, would be at the front door of his facility wanting to know why he wasn't.
All the more enticing to hear him squeal like a pig.
Good thing he didn't sell any weed to an undercover cop while posessing a firearm, instead of committing cold blooded murder. He might be looking at another 55 years instead of only 22.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1748400/posts?q=1&&page=1
Special and heartwarming moments like these bring to mind a fabulous little uptempo pop/new wave "ditty" from the 1980s by Oingo Boingo - written by the brilliant and often acid-penned Conservative musical genius, Danny Elfman:
[partial quote of lyrics from memory - to avoid copyright infringement.]
FWIW - Do Danny a favor - go buy a "Best of" compilation by Oingo Boingo, and treat your ears to a tight horn section, sharp percolating R&B/funk rhythms, and searingly NON-P.C. lyrics which consistently and mercilessly gore sacred cows by the herd, baby!
I had a VIP pass, and met him backstage at a concert in Portland "back in the day", and talked with him for about 20 minutes - what a bright, great guy!
I wish he would get busy and pen some more lyrics - skewering the MSM, the KKKlintoons, ALgore, CAIR and mohammadanism...
"Only a lad"
[...you really mustn't blame him,
only a lad.............society made him!
only a lad.............It's not his fault he turned out this way,
Perhaps if we're nice, he'll just go away!
only a lad....]
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I say - If'n ya cain't pay the piper, don't be a sniper - boy!
I think death would have been too harsh for a kid whose upbringing {judging by his mother's behaviour} was clearly deficient in significant ways - but for the sake of protecting society and exacting appropriate punishment to the crime, a life sentence would not be out of line!
As it is - young Mr. Messner will be out before he is 40 years of age, and have had ample time to consider the grievous errata of his youthful ways. I pray he makes the highest and best use of it...for the sake of all involved.
A.A.C.
"Not really, no," he replied.
Prison was made for guys like this.
He's getting food to eat, a place to sleep, and 22 years to think about how he robed someone else of the rest of his life. I would say her son should be thankful for what he is getting.
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