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American Legion Commander's Vietnam Vet Credentials Questioned; Morin Served in N.J.
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| 12/3/06
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Posted on 12/03/2006 2:59:56 PM PST by T-Bird45
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It certainly does not help the cause when those that are at the forefront of criticism of others have their own clay feet on the matter. While it is correct to say that he is a "Vietnam-era veteran" as that is a specific government designation for benefits purposes, the use of "Vietnam veteran" places him as much in the wrong as those he has cricized lately.
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:00:03 PM PST
by
T-Bird45
To: T-Bird45
said Cleland, who lost both legs and an arm during combat in VietnamAn article about a lie with another lie in it. Cleland was not injured in combat. Just because a person is in a combat area does not mean all injuries in that area are combat injuries. If a person gets bit by a snake in a combat area is that a combat injury?
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:08:57 PM PST
by
taxesareforever
(Never forget Matt Maupin)
To: T-Bird45
Because he was critical of the anti-Amrican left-wing fascist pig faced Democrat terrorist supporters he has been investigated by the national news media and anything he has done will be splashed on the front page for all to see. I am a Vietnam Veteran and I support my American Legion Commander against the anti-American pig faced SOBs from the press and the Democrat party.
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:09:21 PM PST
by
YOUGOTIT
To: T-Bird45
Viet Nam ERA Veteran. He is of the Era.... I guess he must be a liberal:)
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:11:45 PM PST
by
Jumper
To: YOUGOTIT
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:14:26 PM PST
by
kitkat
(The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
To: YOUGOTIT
The old adage concerning stones and glass houses still applies no matter how much we despise the messenger. The real question is why would he change from a correct term that was used when running for the office to another term that is not correct in most people's understanding of "Vietnam veteran" being that of been there, done that.
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:14:48 PM PST
by
T-Bird45
To: T-Bird45
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:15:59 PM PST
by
leadpenny
To: taxesareforever
Cleland was injured, if I recall correctly, while drinking a beer and playing with a grenade. Hardly combat.
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:16:40 PM PST
by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
To: taxesareforever
I agree that the Cleland reference and quotation is absolutely out of place in this matter because Cleland's injuries arose from a non-combat incident.
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:17:23 PM PST
by
T-Bird45
To: T-Bird45; LiteKeeper
Cleland is a Vietnam Veteran. . . period.
To: taxesareforever
This is not about combat or non-combat injuries, it's about Vietnam Veteran or Vietnam era Veteran.
To: T-Bird45
"For the national commander of the American Legion, who never even served in the Vietnam theater, to call himself a Vietnam veteran is a lie," said Cleland, who lost both legs and an arm during combat in Vietnam, and who has been a Legion member since 1969. Max, you're a shill who will whore his words to suit the cause.
Take Kerry to task for "two tours" in Vietnam.
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:26:25 PM PST
by
Doctor Raoul
(Why is the Viagra car in NASCAR a Ford and not a Stretch Limo?)
To: leadpenny
But not a combat casualty...and certainly did not qualify for the Purple Heart!
I have a Purple Heart from that war...and mine came at the hands of the enemy...not during a beer driking session and fooling around with a grenade. There is a difference!
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:28:01 PM PST
by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
To: LiteKeeper
That the rumor, but his story is:
While boarding a huey, a hand grenade slipped off his vest, the pin fell out, and it went off.
Either way, I ask "What was a PIO (public Info Officer, Clielands position at the time) doing with hand grenades"? I mean, a PIO guides reporters around. If he needs hand grenades, he and they are too close to the action.
Hell, when my troops and I went into a base camp for a week or 2, we took all the grenades, extra clips of ammo, and stored them in a secure place.
......Bob
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:28:13 PM PST
by
Lokibob
(Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
To: leadpenny
He's just showing how the media doesn't know their arse from first base. The AP puke makes a big issue of Vietnam verses Vietnam era, yet doesn't know or chooses not to discriminate bewteen combat and non-combat injuries.
You'll never see the DBM media write a story about how the military suffers injury or death just training, training so they'll be ready when needed.
"Cafateria patriotism" picking and choosing what you want to support as long as it fits their cause pisses me off.
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:33:28 PM PST
by
Doctor Raoul
(Why is the Viagra car in NASCAR a Ford and not a Stretch Limo?)
To: taxesareforever
Cleland was not injured in combat. He's the one that fragged himself by accident isn't he?
To: T-Bird45
I joined 'Delayed Enlistment' in Dec of 76, that gives me Vietnam Era Benefits, i,e G I Bill, but at NO time have I ever claimed to be a Vietnam Vet. The war was long over when I finally got to basic in July of 77.
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:38:40 PM PST
by
amigatec
(Carriers make wonderful diplomatic statements. Subs are for when diplomacy is over.)
To: T-Bird45
One of my late husbands was a Vietnam-era veteran. He would never have called himself a Vietnam vet, nor would I ever refer to him as one. There's a world of difference.
To: T-Bird45
Another Burkett & Whitley Stolen Valor moment? What does his DD214 say?
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:40:27 PM PST
by
onedoug
To: Graymatter
The 'Vietnam Era' ended Dec 31 1976.
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posted on
12/03/2006 3:42:12 PM PST
by
amigatec
(Carriers make wonderful diplomatic statements. Subs are for when diplomacy is over.)
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