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More Farmers Seek Subsidies as U.S. Eats Imported Produce
NY Times ^ | 12/03/06 | ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO

Posted on 12/03/2006 12:45:22 PM PST by Aikonaa

FRESNO COUNTY, Calif. — For decades, the fiercely independent fruit and vegetable growers of California, Florida and other states have been the only farmers in America who shunned federal subsidies, delivering produce to the tables of millions of Americans on their own.

But now, in the face of tough new competition primarily from China, even these proud groups are buckling. Produce farmers, their hands newly outstretched, have joined forces for the first time, forming a lobby group intended to pressure politicians over the farm bill to be debated in Congress in January.

Nobody disputes that competitive pressures from abroad are squeezing fruit and vegetable growers, whose garlic, broccoli, lettuce, strawberries and other products are a mainstay of world kitchens. But the issue of whether the United States ought to broaden farm subsidies beyond the commodity crops like corn and cotton, which have historically been protected, is a big flashpoint.

“This is like the tectonic plates of farm policy shifting, because you have a completely new player coming in and demanding money,” said Kenneth A. Cook, president of Environmental Working Group, a research group in Washington that has been critical of farm subsidies, which are mandated by federal laws that date to the Great Depression.

Although some farmers may be suffering, American consumers have been big beneficiaries of cheap food imports. On the United States wholesale market, for example, Chinese garlic costs almost half the price of garlic that is grown domestically. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: agriculture; farmers; farming; farmsubsidies; foodsafety; foodsupply; globalism; subsidies; toxicchina; trade; usda
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I sometimes wonder what's left of our supposed free-market economy. It seems each and every group has their hand in the taxpayer's pocket these days. On the other hand, domestic agriculture is a national security issue and being dependant on China, Mexico etc. for our food supply is a bad idea.
1 posted on 12/03/2006 12:45:24 PM PST by Aikonaa
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2 posted on 12/03/2006 12:53:07 PM PST by Gunny Gene
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To: Aikonaa
Sounds like time to bring back Victory Gardens - only we would have to call them something else

Urban Sustainability Gardens?
Homeland Gardens?
Foreign Pesticide/Poison Free Gardens?

I have a small garden, but will pay more for US raised food.
3 posted on 12/03/2006 12:55:34 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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Non-Bush Gardens.

Bush Free Gardens.

American Gardens.

Biologically Safe Gardens.


4 posted on 12/03/2006 12:58:57 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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Biologically Safe Gardens....

LOL

You would *not* like to see (or smell) what we put on the potato patch. We do compost for longer periods for "farm waste" - and it seems to do the trick.
5 posted on 12/03/2006 1:04:33 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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"I have a small garden, but will pay more for US raised food"

People have a choice they will have to make. Either a migrant worker program ( not immigrants that will stay here) or they can repeal NAFTA and pay taxes to subsidize the farm industry.
The only other options are imported food or grow your own.

The last two are poor choices for the general population.
6 posted on 12/03/2006 1:11:48 PM PST by Beagle8U (Charlie Rangel is teaching the "True Conservatives" a lesson......( there really is a difference))
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To: Aikonaa

Florida... as I see it, the citrus industry is the victim of selling off their land to developers. The Citrus crop moved South to Brazil, etc.... yes there are a few virus affecting the remaining citrus farmers.


7 posted on 12/03/2006 1:13:24 PM PST by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, increased taxes to bring them UP to the Poverty Level!)
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Wouldn't it just be easier to tariff the imports?


8 posted on 12/03/2006 1:14:32 PM PST by mysterio
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"Foreign Pesticide/Poison Free Gardens"

That's the one! Other countries do not follow our high standards of pesticide use. Monsanto et al, still makes many of the U.S. banned pesticides, insecticides & fungicides for export only.

BTW, Bananas are one of the worst. We expanded our garden this year and will develop more next spring.

Too bad our USDA did not support the COOL (Country of Origin Labeling) Program. We're not even allowed to know where our fruits & veggies come from anymore. All in the name of "Globalism" and "Fair Trade".


9 posted on 12/03/2006 1:15:07 PM PST by panaxanax
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Wouldn't it just be easier to tariff the imports?

The founding fathers would agree with you. The free traders will vilify you.

10 posted on 12/03/2006 1:15:39 PM PST by Wormwood (Enjoy this post while it lasts!)
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Well, if we're subsidizing on one end, wouldn't it make more sense to tariff on the other end instead? There's really no free trade with subsidies.


11 posted on 12/03/2006 1:17:31 PM PST by mysterio
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In college, not that I was much of a jogger, my friends would drag me over to a jogging path that ran around a field the
Ag school used for some sort of waste research. "Stay on Path - Waste Research ..." were on the signs that lined the path.
12 posted on 12/03/2006 1:18:13 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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On May 13, 2002, President Bush signed into law the Farm Security and Rural Investment Act of 2002, more commonly known as the 2002 Farm Bill. One of its many initiatives requires country of origin labeling for beef, lamb, pork, fish, perishable agricultural commodities and peanuts.

On January 27, 2004, President Bush signed Public Law 108-199 which delays the implementation of mandatory COOL for all covered commodities except wild and farm-raised fish and shellfish until September 30, 2006.

On November 10, 2005, President Bush signed Public Law 109-97, which delays the implementation for all covered commodities except wild and farm-raised and shellfish until September 30, 2008. As described in the legislation, program implementation is the responsibility of USDA's Agricultural Marketing Service.

http://www.ams.usda.gov/COOL/


13 posted on 12/03/2006 1:25:59 PM PST by panaxanax
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What did you expect, Bush to actually give a damn about the American consumer?


14 posted on 12/03/2006 1:28:51 PM PST by Wormwood (Enjoy this post while it lasts!)
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Yea, silly me. :)


15 posted on 12/03/2006 1:40:34 PM PST by panaxanax
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Imported Chinese garlic putting Gilroy, CA garlic growers out of business.

http://www.cropchoice.com/leadstryed7c.html?recid=1901


16 posted on 12/03/2006 1:49:11 PM PST by panaxanax
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You would *not* like to see (or smell) what we put on the potato patch. We do compost for longer periods for "farm waste" - and it seems to do the trick.

Try 20-20-20 in the bag lot less work.LOL

17 posted on 12/03/2006 1:58:24 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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Too bad our USDA did not support the COOL (Country of Origin Labeling) Program. We're not even allowed to know where our fruits & veggies come from anymore.

Faliure of the pub's. in congress to get this done is another reason they got their butts kicked out. Farms have been wanting to get beef labeled for years, but the packing houses always buy enough vote to block it. Which is the same thing they are doing on the illegal labor.

18 posted on 12/03/2006 2:03:58 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Aikonaa
Farmers are the hidden welfare class, but God help you if you point it out.
19 posted on 12/03/2006 3:27:28 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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We prefer to be "Mr Natural" so as to speak. We used to have access to "primo aged" sheep and cattle corral dropping, but no more, alas....

We have to made do (no puns, please) with handouts from friends with chickens and horses. It helps that we do some of the cleaning ; )
20 posted on 12/03/2006 5:49:26 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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