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An "early Christmas present" for Canada's Conservatives? (plus a few related 'toons)
Ottawa Sun - Canada ^ | Sunday, December 3, 2006 | Greg Weston

Posted on 12/03/2006 12:35:51 PM PST by GMMAC

Dion's party crashers

Unlikely win a victory for new guard -- and possibly Harper

Ottawa Sun
Sunday, December 3, 2006

By Greg Weston


MONTREAL -- And the winner is? Stephen Harper. The prime minister should be laughing all the way to the polls after the federal Liberals crowned Stephane Dion their new leader in a wildly unpredictable upset here yesterday.

In choosing the professorial Quebec MP to lead the Grits into the next election, the Liberal party has taken a turn for the bland, if not towards an electoral abyss.

While all of the four frontrunners in the race have considerable political handicaps, Dion's lack of charisma, his broken English and relatively low public profile outside his native Quebec will combine to make him a hard sell in parts of the Maritimes and from Ontario west.

Even in Quebec, Dion's hardline and often strident handling of the unity file has made him a highly polarizing figure and a favourite target of the separatists, a choice for Liberal leader that one Montreal columnist calls "a wet-dream for the Bloc Quebecois."

For a pragmatic party that values power over all else, the road back into office is anything but clear with Dion at the wheel.

A recent SES Research poll for Sun Media suggested that among Canadians who voted Liberal in the last election, Dion's leadership of the party will turn off as many electors as it will attract.

Among Canadians who supported the other parties -- voters the Grits need to poach in order to beat Harper's Conservatives -- the SES poll showed Dion is a liability across the board.

Even Greens express no affinity for the former environment minister, with 27% of those polled saying they would be less likely to support the Liberals with Dion as leader, compared to only 6% who would be more inclined to vote Grit.

But perhaps the most devastating effect of Dion's victory yesterday was the wide and bloody schism it has created in an already fractured party.

The split was palpable even as Dion's winning fourth-ballot support was announced in the packed convention hall, the roaring enthusiasm of his supporters clearly not shared by the thousands of Liberals who sat on their hands, and quietly began leaving before the victory speech.

Lesser of evils?

With the next election likely only months away, there won't be much time for healing among those who would lead the Grits into battle -- namely, the 5,000-odd Liberal organizers, candidates, MPs and other party stalwarts at the convention, almost 82% of whom arrived here backing candidates other than Dion as their first choice for leader.

So, what the heck were they thinking?

Some no doubt concluded Dion was the lesser of evils among the other frontrunners -- Michael Ignatieff, the accident-prone academic; Gerard Kennedy, the former Ontario minister with no Quebec appeal; and Bob Rae, the former NDP premier who rode the country's largest provincial economy into the tank in the 1990s.

But there was something much more powerful at work amid all the hoopla on the floor of the convention, something not seen in decades of leadership races. The Liberal grassroots staged a full-scale revolt, seizing control of the party from the establishment that has forever passed the Grit machine from one group of old-guard insiders to another, every time the leadership changed.

This time, two of the frontrunners were poised to make it happen again -- Rae's senior organization looked like a Jean Chretien reunion; Ignatieff was backed by dozens of MPs, senators and a small army of Grit backroomers.

By comparison, Dion's campaign looked like a coalition of outsiders.

But no one went after delegates with a platform of "reform and renewal" more than Kennedy, promising to put control of Gritdom back in the hands of the long-abused rank-and-file, the door-knockers, stamp-lickers, little Libs and others cherished in elections and quickly forgotten.

New blood

As Kennedy said in his keynote speech on the eve of the voting, what the Liberal party needs more than a new leader is a new party.

They should be careful what they wish for. In a deal sealed in the early hours of yesterday morning, Kennedy suddenly threw his support behind Dion after the second ballot, carrying the vast majority of his delegates with him.

The move vaulted Dion ahead of Rae on the third ballot, and ultimately sealed Ignatieff's defeat in the final vote.

While Dion and Kennedy may have successfully rid the palace of the old guard, there is only one problem. The vanquished happen to include virtually all of the party's experienced election organizers. Oops.

Harper cabinet minister John Baird dropped by the convention, and crowed that the Conservatives are "thrilled the Liberals have a new leader."

No kidding.















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TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adscam; dion; harper; liberals
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To: GMMAC
Why does the pig with lipstick cartoon remind me of Nancy Pelosi?
21 posted on 12/03/2006 2:36:39 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: conservative in nyc; dr_who_2
At the absolute minimum, it seems safe to stop worrying about the Libs taking back any seats in Alberta next time out.

As for Quebec and irrespective of how things shake down between the CPC & the Bloc, with Dion leading them, the Liberals can forget about being part of any 3-way races outside of maybe Montreal's Anglo ghetto & perhaps the odd seat in the Eastern Townships.

Anywhere else, for federalist voters, we're going be the only game in town.
22 posted on 12/03/2006 2:42:11 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: fanfan; timsbella
"Not Iggy, Justin."


23 posted on 12/03/2006 3:07:52 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

If that's the case, then their biggest enemy is complacency.


24 posted on 12/03/2006 5:55:42 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2
Going by the article, perhaps the opposition that Canadian conservatives really shouldn't underestimate is the Bloc Quebecois.

The Bloc is a regional, as in Quebec ONLY party. It is NOT a concern for anyone outside that pathetic 23% (and declining) of Canada's population.

25 posted on 12/03/2006 7:33:28 PM PST by Don W (Stoneage man survived thousands of years of bitter-cold ice. Modern man WILLsurvive global warming.)
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To: Don W

True, but my thinking was that what the Bloc is good at is stirring up trouble for the ruling party to deal with. But I suppose that Harper's popularity would go up if he had a run-in with the BQ's.


26 posted on 12/03/2006 7:38:04 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2

If the BQ were stupid enough to pick a fight with Harper, he would be unstoppable. Being the gentleman he (and most conservatives) is (are), he'll allow the socialist twits to start the fight, and by all that's good and right, we'll WIN again.

The politics of emotion have run their course.

The politics of reason are once again on the rise.

Let's not let destructive and anti-intelligent factors force their misguided and pseudo-intellectual ideals upon our great nations any longer.


27 posted on 12/03/2006 9:03:58 PM PST by Don W (Stoneage man survived thousands of years of bitter-cold ice. Modern man WILLsurvive global warming.)
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To: dr_who_2; Don W; fanfan
A few points with respect to Quebec politics which the msm likes to gloss over:

1. For a number of reasons including their historical anti-Catholicism, but most coming back to arrogance and a long history of sundry corruption, there is a visceral hatred for the Liberals in more than a few quarters of Quebec society well beyond anything you'll find anywhere else in Canada.

2. Particularly in the more remote rural areas, the Bloc has been the principal beneficiary of this anti-Liberal vote.

3. Elsewhere, primarily in the Greater Montreal Area & the Eastern Townships running South from the St. Lawrence River to the U.S. border, there are a considerable number of urban or semi-urban Anglophone & middle class (often bilingual) Francophone voters who hold their noses to vote Liberal because it's been their principal federalist option and perceived as more 'soft' left than the Bloc which they fear both for its separatism & the hard leftism of most - but not all - of its leadership.

4. Since both the Liberals & the Bloc favor extreme social policies (e.g. anti life, pro radical gay & feminist agendas), social conservatives - including, especially, practicing Catholics - have been effectively disenfranchised within most of Quebec's Ridings.

5. In many Ridings, the Liberals also tend to receive support from fiscal conservatives who would gladly vote CPC if it weren't for their fear of splitting the federalist vote.

Bottom line: there's a lot extremely soft support for both Parties & for reasons which generally play to Stephen Harper's strong suits.
French Quebec also had a history prior to the arrival of the Bloc of voting tribally in the form of massive electoral swings.
My guess: if we can break through much beyond what we already have (remembering virtually none of the pundits & pollsters called for the 10 CPC seats last January) it's more than possible there could be an even 1984-like shift to the right.
28 posted on 12/03/2006 9:07:36 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: dr_who_2; Don W; fanfan; timsbella; Lancey Howard; kanawa; conservative in nyc; mkjessup; paudio
Lo and behold! Look what popped up this morning on this very same topic:

How PM shored up Quebec caucus ~ Simon Doyle, The Hill Times, 12/04/06

Stephen Harper? Positively Rovian!
29 posted on 12/04/2006 9:24:18 AM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

Wow! Thanks for that update. Harper is amazing.


30 posted on 12/04/2006 10:03:25 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ..
You're welcome.
Check these out:

Tories believe they can gain from Dion's hard line on unity ~ Bill Curry, Globe & Mail, 12/04/06

For Harper, a double-edged sword ~ CHANTAL HÉBERT. red Star, 12/04/06

Comment: if you read only one, go for the 2nd.
Sure Hebert is a gender-bending hard-core lefty but, you can't deny she's smart, knows Quebec inside out or that her analysis hasn't been bang-on many times in the past.
To me, the only spin from her here, is somewhat soft-peddling the CPC's up-side & the Libs' downside.

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31 posted on 12/04/2006 10:48:15 AM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

Chantal Hebert makes an astute analysis, doesn't she? Only in the last sentence does she collapse into lefty dreaming.

I always enjoy watching her and Andrew Coyne discuss politics on CBC. Did you catch that moment Friday night when Mansbridge intro'd a shot of them on the Convention floor by saying,"Andrew's the one on the left." To be frank, she looked more like a man than did Andrew. He's going to have to butch it up a little more, I guess - wear a motorcycle jacket and grow a beard, perhaps.

Just kidding!


32 posted on 12/04/2006 11:01:17 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: GMMAC
Thanks for the thread on the Liberals GMMAC.

I found this link on Kate McMillans site, small dead animals.

http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/11/30/Liberals/

Apparently Dion credits his win to his Vancouver organizer.

The Libranos in lala land is a story that is somewhat neglected.

The Tyee article is a good read. I am waiting for the "Spiderman" trial. (and waiting and waiting and waiting).

33 posted on 12/04/2006 1:30:12 PM PST by concrete is my business (place, consolidate, finish)
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To: concrete is my business
http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/11/30/Liberals/
34 posted on 12/04/2006 2:33:51 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: timsbella
Nope. The Bloc will again sweep Quebec. If things are good, the Liberals would be lucky to pull up to second. Stephane Dion does nothing to solve the party's real problem: its lack of organization and appeal west of Manitoba. The days when the Liberals could put together majorities out of central Canada are gone forever. Whatever the Liberals once were, its clear they are not a national party and haven't been for sometime. The Conservatives have broken through in Quebec and are solid in Ontario and are only poised to make gains in Atlantic Canada. As a national party, they have come of age.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

35 posted on 12/04/2006 2:42:56 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: conservative in nyc
Exactly. Alberta is 28 for 28 Conservative. Even the Republicans in the U.S have never had an all-GOP Texas delegation!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

36 posted on 12/04/2006 2:45:37 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: GMMAC
Quebec matters to Prime Minister Harper more anything. They only have to win a third of the ridings there to secure a parliamentary majority in the next election, if everything else stays the same.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

37 posted on 12/04/2006 2:59:00 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Agreed & even more remarkable in light of Edmonton & Calgary, Canada's 4th & 5th most populous urban areas, being within Alberta's provincial boundaries. And, on top of that, when both those cities are home to major universities!


38 posted on 12/04/2006 3:01:15 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC; paudio
I hope Canadian conservatives do not underestimate this person. The Dims were so happy when Reagan won the primary. We were also so happy when Dean became the DNC chair.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I have the same feeling. Dion was selected to pursue a similar strategy as that used by Pierre Trudeau: To get the seperatists beating their War Drums, create a "militant" Franch Movement ( oxymoron?), blow up a few mailboxes in Laval, and then scare the hell out of Canadians once again, so that the only policy seemingly possible is the placation and appeasement of a recalcitant Quebec. In other words, a try for 40 more years of liberal socialist moonbat French based rule of the entire country.

Can "Le Petit Professeur " pull it off? Well all we have to do is wait and watch the Parti Quebecois ramp up , and watch for a renewed FLQ presence dans La Belle Provence. That will be the sign that the Liberals will be up to their old tricks, and the question then is: Will Stephen Harper lay the boots to them? Will conservatives be saying:

"if you want to leave, you will have to bleed in a Civil War you cannot possibley win. No conventions, no amiable political parting of the ways, but only through blood and steel, the only way for Quebec to secceed. Will Stepen be able to call Dions bluff? I think if English Canada supports him, along with a sizable portion of Quebec francophone conservatives, Stephen will win the day, and win the country.

I do not discount Dion. He is a viper in professorial clothing, a former communist and Parti Quebecois member, a former professor at the Universite de Moncton, a pit of totalitarian vipers whose socialist ideals include the partition of New Brunswick for the existence of Le Republique de Madewaska.

Dion will be a serious threat to the unity of the nation, which he will attempt to barter for the Prime Ministership of Canada, and 40 more years of a "Quiet Revolution." If that happens Canada will never be able to realize its true potential economically or socially. That must not be allowed to happen.

39 posted on 12/04/2006 4:52:27 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: GMMAC

This Quebecker wants to keep the Albertan in 24 Sussex Drive. No way am I voting for Dion.


40 posted on 12/05/2006 7:48:21 AM PST by youngtory (Kick the Red Tories out of the Conservative Party!)
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