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George Felos, where are you? Death is beautiful, euphoric, right? Just ask Saddam Hussain and his fellow lovers of death.

"This is not a painful way to die at all. She died about the 10th day. And it was a beautiful death, her family was with her."

A death in Italy raises questions here

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1,369 posted on 01/12/2007 3:58:11 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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This remains a tough topic for me based on our own experiences. I have a hard time posting this without letting my anger grow into wild fury. I repeat. Such procedures are simply experimental and are cosmetically feel-goods for the parents and guilt-ridden, are a disaster for the child who would have remained naturally small anyway.

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(CNN) -- David is a young man with severe cerebral palsy. He can't walk, he can't talk, he can't sit up by himself, but he can blog. This week, David blogged about Ashley.

"Ashley's parents have committed the ultimate betrayal," he writes. "They have treated their daughter as less than human, not worthy of dignity.... What strikes me about 'the Ashley treatment' and has brought me to tears is that the very people in all of society whom this child should trust have betrayed her."

Everyone on the Internet, it seems, has an opinion about what Ashley's parents did to her. Ashley, 9, has a condition called static encephalopathy, which means an unchanging brain injury of unknown origin. She's in a permanent infant-like state -- can't hold her head up, speak or roll over on her own. (Read a Q&A with the ethicist who helped decide on Ashley's treatment. )

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Ashley


Disability community decries 'Ashley treatment'

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1,370 posted on 01/12/2007 4:04:43 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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>> Dr. C. Ronald Koons, ethical adviser

Uh huh. That's all you have to read about the man and you know he's about to preach a sermonette of death. Dr. Koons predictably went right to it. He is also as gullible as any other university type, accepting the media diagnosis of Terri Schiavo's PVS state.

I wonder why an Indiana reporter interviewed a California bioethicist about such matters? Haven't they any Hoosier killers to talk to? John Dillinger was from Indiana and Jim Jones had an Indiana background. Surely there is somebody left in that tradition.

1,398 posted on 01/12/2007 6:20:58 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls.)
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Some 70 percent have said they want euthanasia available if they need it. But it's important to point out, only 3 percent of the patients in Holland, where it is available, have used active euthanasia. And Oregon requires that the patient must take the medicine to end his or her own life. Less than one-tenth of 1 percent have done so.

That's a pretty low percentage of people choosing death for themselves. I'd be curious to know what percentage choose death for their "loved ones." I would estimate that about 95% of the articles I read about incidents of brain injury, include family members choosing death for the patient. And they're usually quoted as claiming it's what the patient would have wanted. Hmm..

1,453 posted on 01/13/2007 9:11:32 PM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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