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Fox News Watch: Eric Burned For Criticism of US Airways Removal of Imams
Fox News Watch/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/02/2006 5:19:01 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

How do you know when you've gone overboard with political correctness? When even the liberal panelists of Fox News Watch chide you for it. Host Eric Burns normally stays above the fray. But for some reason, on this evening's show he chose to criticize US Airways for removing from one of its flights six imams whose actions had made other passengers uneasy.

Said Burns, introducing the segment: "There were two stories in the news this week about religion. First, Pope Benedict in Turkey tried to encourage tolerance between Catholics and Muslims. Second, a story of tolerance of U.S. Airways and Muslims - there wasn't any - as six Muslim religious leaders, or imams, were recently yanked off the US Airways flight for no apparent reason other than that a passenger thought they were behaving strangely. Jane, I wonder if the moral of these two stories is first that the media are not at all captivated by this Pope . . but they are captivated by stories that seem to show that anti-terrorist policies sometimes go too far."

Liberal panelist Jane Hall took polite exception: "I'm not sure I would agree. From what I read - and my source is the [conservative] Washington Times and Cal Thomas - so let's stipulate that, the reports I read said that these men were sitting in the back, went to the back, and the configuration was like the September 11th hijackers, praying very loudly and that they were speaking about al Qaeda. I mean, my shoes, 83-year-old grandmothers are searched, and so I'm not so sure this is a story of intolerance, frankly."

Jim Pinkerton was less forgiving: "Yeah, Eric, I think you misstated the argument there badly on the U.S. Airways flight."

A rueful Burns: "Couldn't you just disagree?"

Pinkerton: "I tried to say that graciously."

Liberal Neal Gabler chimed in with a laugh: "I was thinking the same thing!" It wasn't clear whether he was agreeing with Pinkerton, or with Burns' suggestion that the criticism could have been offered more gently.

But one thing was clear: Burns' allegation of US Airways anti-Muslim bias got shot down in flames.

View video here.

Contact Mark at mark@gunhill.net


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; foxnews; imams; usairways
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To: Doc Savage

Obviously I'm not too sympathetic to Burns on this one since I wrote the story in the first place. But I do have to say it seemed out of character for him. Maybe he had been out partying with Danny DeVito ;-)


21 posted on 12/02/2006 6:05:34 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I think this was setting us up to NOT be able to question them in the future, when it will be dangerous.

They are trying to make US look like the bad guys.


22 posted on 12/02/2006 6:08:20 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Steely Tom

You don't watch any TV? Not even Food Network???


23 posted on 12/02/2006 6:13:06 PM PST by YaYa123
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Very odd to see the normally intelligent Burns behaving more stupidly than the idiot jane hall or the poisonous dwarf neal gabler. Either he did absolutely no research or was trying to provoke the panel.
24 posted on 12/02/2006 6:15:12 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Eric-gets-burned ping to Today show list.

Did the talking heads ever read this?

Hmmmm!!!

The case of U.S. Airways flight 300 gets stranger by the minute. When six traveling Muslim clerics were asked to deplane last week, it looked like another civil rights controversy against post-9-11 airport security.

Now new information is emerging that suggests it was all a stunt designed to weaken security….

Yesterday I spoke with a passenger on that flight, who asked that she be only identified as “Pauline.” A copy of airport police report, which I also obtained, supports Pauline’s account - and includes shocking revelations of its own. In addition, U.S. Airways spokeswoman Andrea Rader also confirmed much of what Pauline revealed…..

The passenger, who asked that she only be identified as “Pauline,” said she is afraid to give her full name or hometown. She is spending the night at “another location” because she does not feel safe at home. She credits reports that one imam is apparently linked to Hamas. “It is scary because these men could be dangerous.”

Pauline said she never wanted media attention. She wrote an email to U.S. Airways and cc:ed her daughter, who unexpectedly emailed it to her friends. As the letter took on an internet life of its own, it made its way to the inbox of a retired CNN executive producer. Then, to her dismay, the feeding frenzy began.

Pauline revealed to Pajamas Media that the six imams were doing things far more suspicious than praying - an Arabic-speaking passenger heard them repeatedly invoke “bin Laden,” and “terrorism,” a gate attendant told the captain that she did not want to fly with them, and that bomb-sniffing dogs were brought aboard. Other Muslim passengers were left undisturbed and later joined in a round of applause for the U.S. Airways crew. “It wasn’t that they were Muslim. It was all of the suspicious things they did,” Pauline said.

Here is her story, along with corroborating quotes from the U.S. Airways spokeswoman Andrea Rader and the official report, another Pajamas Media exclusive.

Sitting in Minneapolis-St. Paul’s Airport Gate C9, she noticed one of the imams immediately. “He was pacing nervously, talking in Arabic,” she said.

She quickly noticed the others. “They didn’t look like holy men to me. They looked like guys heading out of town for a Vikings game.”

Pauline said she did not see or hear the imams pray at the gate (she was at dinner in a nearby airport eatery), but heard about the pre-flight prayers from other passengers hours later.

As the plane boarded, she said, no one refused to fly. The public prayers and Arabic phone call did not trigger any alarms - so much for the p.c. allegations that people were disturbed by Muslim prayers.

But a note from a passenger about suspicious movements of the imams got the crew’s attention. A copy of the passenger’s note appears in the police report.

To Pauline everything seemed normal. Then the captain - in classic laconic pilot-style - announced there had been a “mix up in our paperwork” and that the flight would be delayed.

In reality, the air crew was waiting for the FBI and local police to arrive.

Ninety minutes after the flight’s scheduled 5:15 p.m. departure, the captain announced yet another delay. Still, Pauline said, there was no sense of alarm.

Still, it seemed like just another annoying development, typical when flying the friendly skies.

The situation in cockpit was far more intense, according to a U.S. Airways spokeswoman and police reports.

Contrary to press accounts that a single note from a passenger triggered the imams’ removal, Captain John Howard Wood was weighing multiple factors - factors that have largely been ignored by the press.

Another passenger, not the note writer, was an Arabic speaker sitting near two of the imams in the plane’s tail. That passenger pulled a flight attendant aside, and in a whisper, translated what the men were saying. They were invoking “bin Laden” and condemning America for “killing Saddam,” according to police reports.

Meanwhile an imam seated in first class asked for a seat-belt extension, even though according to both an on-duty flight attendant and another deadheading flight attendant, he looked too thin to need one. Hours later, when the passengers were being evacuated, the seat-belt extension was found on the floor near the imam’s seat, police reports confirm. The U.S. Airways spokeswoman Andrea Rader said she did not dispute the report, but said the airline’s internal investigation cannot yet account for the seat-belt extension request or its subsequent use.

A seat-belt extension can easily be used as a weapon, by wrapping the open-end of the belt around your fist and swinging the heavy metal buckle.

Still, it seemed like just another annoying development, typical when flying the friendly skies. Days after the incident, the imam would claim that the steward helped him attach the device. Pauline said he is lying. Hours later, when the police was being evacuated, the steward asked Pauline to hand him the seat-belt extension, which the imam did not attach, but placed on the floor. “I know he is lying,” Pauline said, “I had it [seat belt extension] in my hand.”

A passenger in the third row of first class, Pauline said, told a member of the crew: “I don’t have a good feeling about this guy,” about the imam who wanted the seat-belt extension.

A married couple one row behind first-class, tried to strike up a conversation with the imam seated near them. He refused to talk or even look at the woman in the eye, according to Pauline. Instead, he stood up and moved to join the other imams in the back of the plane. Why would he leave the luxury end of the aircraft? Pauline wondered. The account of the married couple does not appear in the police report.

Finally, a gate attendant told the captain she thought the imams were acting suspiciously, according to police reports.

So the captain apparently made his decision to delay the flight based on many complaints, not one. And he consulted a federal air marshal, a U.S. Airways ground security coordinator and the airline’s security office in Phoenix. All thought the imams were acting suspiciously, Rader told me.

Other factors were also considered: All six imams had boarded together, with the first-class passengers - even though only one of them had a first-class ticket. Three had one-way tickets. Between the six men, only one had checked a bag.

And, Pauline said, they spread out just like the 9-11 hijackers. Two sat in first, two in the middle, and two back in the economy section. Pauline’s account is confirmed by the police report. The airline spokeswoman added that some seemed to be sitting in seats not assigned to them.

One thing that no one seemed to consider at the time, perhaps due to lack of familiarity with Islamic practice, is that the men prayed both at the gate and on the plane. Observant Muslims pray only once at sundown, not twice.

“It was almost as if they were intentionally trying to get kicked off the flight,” Pauline said.

A lone plain clothes FBI agent boarded the plane and briefly spoke to the imams. Later, uniformed police escorted them off.

Some press reports said the men were led off in handcuffs, which Pauline disputes. “I saw them. They were not handcuffed.”

Later, each imam was individually brought back on the aircraft to reclaim his belongings. They were still not handcuffed. They may have been handcuffed later.

At this point, the passengers became alarmed. “How do we know they got all their stuff off?” Pauline heard one man ask.

While the imams were soon released, Pauline is fuming: “We are the victims of these people. They need to be more sensitive to us. They were totally insensitive to us and then accused us of being insensitive to them. I mean, we were a lot more inconvenienced than them.”

The plane was delayed for some three and one-half hours.

Bomb-sniffing dogs were used to sweep the plane and every passenger was re-screened, the airline spokeswoman confirmed. Another detail omitted from press reports.

The reaction of the remaining passengers has also gone unreported. “We applauded and cheered for the crew,” she said.

“I think it was either a foiled attempt to take over the plane or it was a publicity stunt to accuse us of being insensitive,” Pauline said. “It had to be to intimidate U.S. Airways to ease up on security.”

So far, U.S. Airways refuses to be intimidated, even though the feds have launched an investigation. “We are absolutely backing this crew,” Rader said.

Tucked away in the police report is this little gem: one of the imams had complained to a passenger that some nations did not follow shariah law and his job in Bakersfield, Calif. was a cover for “representing Muslims here in the U.S.”

So what are the imams really up to? Something more than praying it seems.

25 posted on 12/02/2006 6:16:48 PM PST by danamco
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Why does Cal Thomas participate in a political show with leftist women?


26 posted on 12/02/2006 6:19:18 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I agree Burns seemed to always play his role pretty straight on the show. I haven't watched it regularly for a couple of years, but I would give him a pass based on his prior body of work.


27 posted on 12/02/2006 6:21:38 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: danamco
So what are the imams really up to? Something more than praying it seems.

The six billion dollar question with none, nada, not one with the answer? Not Likely! There's no doubt what the moose was doing and anyone not of that opinion is only kidding himself / herself.....and BTW I'm back asleep already.....ZZZZZ <<<<<<----- rant off

28 posted on 12/02/2006 6:29:26 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Political Correctness:

”A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

By spreading this definition around, perhaps we can employ one of the more effective methods of deflating and defeating the fools who practice and promote it: RIDICULE.

Unless stopped – and soon – PC will DESTROY Western Civilization -- if it hasn’t already.

PASS IT ON!!


29 posted on 12/02/2006 6:31:53 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Neal Gabler

How this moon bat stays on the show is beyond me.

30 posted on 12/02/2006 6:34:10 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Gabler is an oozing, puss filled boil on the penis of journalism.

Mini rant!


31 posted on 12/02/2006 7:23:02 PM PST by lawdude (The dems see Wal-Mart as a bigger threat to the US than muslim terrorists)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Saudi Prince Bin Talal owns 22% of NewsCorp. Eric Burns knows who butters his bread.


32 posted on 12/02/2006 7:43:27 PM PST by montag813
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Does Eric have any children he plans to donate? That's what it's all about sh*thead!


33 posted on 12/02/2006 8:08:16 PM PST by Waco
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
A post I made earlier today
Other Muslim passengers were not pulled from this flight because the didn't cause a problem and I'm guessing the one who spoke Arabic was also a muslim

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1747337/posts?page=67#67

To: Blue Turtle
Other Muslim passengers were left undisturbed and later joined in a round of applause for the U.S. Airways crew. “It wasn’t that they were Muslim. It was all of the suspicious things they did,” Pauline said.

Note ... the other Muslim passengers didn't pull this stunt


67 posted on 12/02/2006 7:22:00 AM EST by Mo1
34 posted on 12/02/2006 8:22:35 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I mean, my shoes, 83-year-old grandmothers are searched, and so I'm not so sure this is a story of intolerance, frankly."

Thank goodness we spread eagle and strip searched grandma so we could prove we were oh so politically correct in not profiling.

35 posted on 12/02/2006 11:02:45 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
... other than that a passenger thought ...

Folks with an agenda or idea they wish to promote will often twist/delete a single word that in of itself, seems innocent. Here is an example - There were reports from multiple passengers complaining about the imamm's behavior, not a single one as he implied.
36 posted on 12/02/2006 11:16:50 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Popman

Yeah but Fox News watch is great because you get to see a couple feisty liberals square off with the well spoken Cal Thomas. I like the issues they cover, I always find the show engaging.


37 posted on 12/03/2006 3:40:12 PM PST by Pop Fly
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Good! It's time the real facts came out instead of the media version.


38 posted on 12/03/2006 3:56:12 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: kvanbrunt2

It's a nasty job but somebody has to do it!


39 posted on 12/03/2006 4:00:07 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: danamco

Jest wonderin' if it was a 'dry run?'


40 posted on 12/03/2006 4:00:46 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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