1 posted on
12/02/2006 11:04:05 AM PST by
abb
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2 posted on
12/02/2006 11:04:34 AM PST by
abb
(The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
To: abb
I think of animation as being a good thing.
3 posted on
12/02/2006 11:04:56 AM PST by
BunnySlippers
(Never Forget / Giuliani 2008)
To: abb
Well, the animation studio is somewhat peripheral to MSM. MSM could be defined as a propaganda machine with its technological base now increasingly obsolescent. Now, movies could be propagandistic, and many of them are, but Disney animated ones are not the prime suspects in this regard.
5 posted on
12/02/2006 11:09:19 AM PST by
GSlob
To: abb
Animation - isn't that the path to Fake But Accurate?
7 posted on
12/02/2006 11:18:17 AM PST by
69ConvertibleFirebird
(Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
To: abb
Does this fall under Dinosaur Media Deathwatch? A lot of animated Disney movies are great films.
9 posted on
12/02/2006 11:27:57 AM PST by
Jedi Master Pikachu
( FRhomepage on IE is very ugly. Firefox was used to make. Can you help?)
To: abb
Traditional hand-drawn line animation is all but dead, that's what this story is about. Pixar-type computer animation is the name of the game today, unfortunately. I say unfortunately because the great hand-drawn Disney animation features are true classics in a way that the Pixar films and their imitators will never be.
11 posted on
12/02/2006 11:30:00 AM PST by
denydenydeny
("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
To: abb
My reply above was meant to be to you I think.
To: abb
Gosh the endless Dinosaur Media Death Watch is amazing considering that the movie industry will make more money than last year. In order for the Media to die we are going to have these threads until the end of every FREEPERS life for sure (even the youngest one out there). I just don't see the media going anywhere anytime this century.
To: abb
I don't think Disney has anything to worry about as long as I keep paying our Disney Vacation Club dues. That's enough to keep a few annimators going.
23 posted on
12/02/2006 12:12:33 PM PST by
Conan the Librarian
(The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
To: abb
Eisner wrecked Disney.
For animation fans, I would recommend almost any of the productions of Studio Ghibli, some of which have been picked up by Disney. The best ones are by Hayao Miyazaki. He seems to be both a pacifist (having suffered in WW II as a child) and an environmentalist, but frankly that doesn't matter, his stuff is so extremely good.
"Spirited Away" may be his most famous, but I strongly recommend "Porco Rosso," "Castle in the Sky," "Totoro," or any of his other films. Great stuff for the family. Brilliant animation and story telling.
You can find the details at the Studio Ghibli web site, or look up Miyazaki at Amazon and check the reviews.
32 posted on
12/02/2006 1:04:30 PM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: abb
What surprises me about this is that I thought Disney eliminated their animation department after "Home on the Range." Pixar has become the animation face of Disney, and Buzz and Woody, Sully and Mike, the Incredibles, etc., are as popular as most of the old Disney characters. Disney animation went great guns under Katzenberg, until Eisner ran him off. Katzenberg went on to create Shrek, although most of his other ventures were lame. Pixar has, I believe, studiously avoided politics in their animation, and the Incredibles was downright conservative. Katzenberg ran Disney during the years they created the Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and the Lion King. After he left, they did Hunchback, Home on the Range, Lilo and Stitch, etc.
As to laying off some animators, I think that's probably because of the greater time for production, and the fact that even traditional animation is largely done on computer now, eliminating the need for much of the labor.
35 posted on
12/02/2006 1:13:09 PM PST by
Richard Kimball
(I get no respect. I went to the proctologist and he put his finger in my mouth - Rodney Dangerfield)
To: abb
Disney is toast. Walt must be saddened to see his once great family-oriented empire turned into a politically-correct leftist cesspool.
To: abb
Walt Disney Co. will price themselves out of the market soon and all that will be left is the queer day.
39 posted on
12/02/2006 2:35:49 PM PST by
chiefqc
To: abb
Being an animator myself I can see why these people are being cut. They've been cutting since the late 90's because of the mismanagement under Eisner. Disney's in house animation was wasted on rehashed direct to video stuff that was done to recoup lost profits from their box office flops.
The animators who cannot/will not be trained in 3d computer animation are the ones being cut. Sad to see this, but you need to keep yourself marketable or you lose your job. =-(
42 posted on
12/02/2006 3:20:44 PM PST by
miliantnutcase
("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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