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1 posted on 12/02/2006 11:04:05 AM PST by abb
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2 posted on 12/02/2006 11:04:34 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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I think of animation as being a good thing.


3 posted on 12/02/2006 11:04:56 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / Giuliani 2008)
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Well, the animation studio is somewhat peripheral to MSM. MSM could be defined as a propaganda machine with its technological base now increasingly obsolescent. Now, movies could be propagandistic, and many of them are, but Disney animated ones are not the prime suspects in this regard.


5 posted on 12/02/2006 11:09:19 AM PST by GSlob
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Animation - isn't that the path to Fake But Accurate?
7 posted on 12/02/2006 11:18:17 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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Does this fall under Dinosaur Media Deathwatch? A lot of animated Disney movies are great films.


9 posted on 12/02/2006 11:27:57 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( FRhomepage on IE is very ugly. Firefox was used to make. Can you help?)
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Traditional hand-drawn line animation is all but dead, that's what this story is about. Pixar-type computer animation is the name of the game today, unfortunately. I say unfortunately because the great hand-drawn Disney animation features are true classics in a way that the Pixar films and their imitators will never be.


11 posted on 12/02/2006 11:30:00 AM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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My reply above was meant to be to you I think.


14 posted on 12/02/2006 11:34:08 AM PST by Jack Black
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Gosh the endless Dinosaur Media Death Watch is amazing considering that the movie industry will make more money than last year. In order for the Media to die we are going to have these threads until the end of every FREEPERS life for sure (even the youngest one out there). I just don't see the media going anywhere anytime this century.


15 posted on 12/02/2006 11:35:05 AM PST by napscoordinator
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I don't think Disney has anything to worry about as long as I keep paying our Disney Vacation Club dues. That's enough to keep a few annimators going.


23 posted on 12/02/2006 12:12:33 PM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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Eisner wrecked Disney.

For animation fans, I would recommend almost any of the productions of Studio Ghibli, some of which have been picked up by Disney. The best ones are by Hayao Miyazaki. He seems to be both a pacifist (having suffered in WW II as a child) and an environmentalist, but frankly that doesn't matter, his stuff is so extremely good.

"Spirited Away" may be his most famous, but I strongly recommend "Porco Rosso," "Castle in the Sky," "Totoro," or any of his other films. Great stuff for the family. Brilliant animation and story telling.

You can find the details at the Studio Ghibli web site, or look up Miyazaki at Amazon and check the reviews.


32 posted on 12/02/2006 1:04:30 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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What surprises me about this is that I thought Disney eliminated their animation department after "Home on the Range." Pixar has become the animation face of Disney, and Buzz and Woody, Sully and Mike, the Incredibles, etc., are as popular as most of the old Disney characters. Disney animation went great guns under Katzenberg, until Eisner ran him off. Katzenberg went on to create Shrek, although most of his other ventures were lame. Pixar has, I believe, studiously avoided politics in their animation, and the Incredibles was downright conservative. Katzenberg ran Disney during the years they created the Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and the Lion King. After he left, they did Hunchback, Home on the Range, Lilo and Stitch, etc.

As to laying off some animators, I think that's probably because of the greater time for production, and the fact that even traditional animation is largely done on computer now, eliminating the need for much of the labor.

35 posted on 12/02/2006 1:13:09 PM PST by Richard Kimball (I get no respect. I went to the proctologist and he put his finger in my mouth - Rodney Dangerfield)
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Disney is toast. Walt must be saddened to see his once great family-oriented empire turned into a politically-correct leftist cesspool.


37 posted on 12/02/2006 1:47:54 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal (q)
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Walt Disney Co. will price themselves out of the market soon and all that will be left is the queer day.


39 posted on 12/02/2006 2:35:49 PM PST by chiefqc
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Being an animator myself I can see why these people are being cut. They've been cutting since the late 90's because of the mismanagement under Eisner. Disney's in house animation was wasted on rehashed direct to video stuff that was done to recoup lost profits from their box office flops.

The animators who cannot/will not be trained in 3d computer animation are the ones being cut. Sad to see this, but you need to keep yourself marketable or you lose your job. =-(
42 posted on 12/02/2006 3:20:44 PM PST by miliantnutcase ("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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