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He's The Worst Ever (Have your barf bags ready)
Washington Post ^ | December 3, 2006 | Eric Foner

Posted on 12/02/2006 9:40:43 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper

Ever since 1948, when Harvard professor Arthur Schlesinger Sr. asked 55 historians to rank U.S. presidents on a scale from "great" to "failure," such polls have been a favorite pastime for those of us who study the American past.

Changes in presidential rankings reflect shifts in how we view history. When the first poll was taken, the Reconstruction era that followed the Civil War was regarded as a time of corruption and misgovernment caused by granting black men the right to vote. As a result, President Andrew Johnson, a fervent white supremacist who opposed efforts to extend basic rights to former slaves, was rated "near great." Today, by contrast, scholars consider Reconstruction a flawed but noble attempt to build an interracial democracy from the ashes of slavery -- and Johnson a flat failure.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barf; bush; ericfoner; presidents; worstpresidents
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1 posted on 12/02/2006 9:40:46 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

I see he has his email address on that tripe


2 posted on 12/02/2006 9:46:07 AM PST by woofie (This area deemed a failure, Something new and witty will no doubt emerge)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Forner is a well-known Marxist Historian. He sees History as a matter of following the buck, or viewing events through the lens of class warfare.

Naturally, he's not going to think much of President Bush.

When all is said and done, through it might be fifty years, Bush will be with the near-greats: Truman, Polk, Eisenhower, and Jackson.

Standing up to the radicals in the Middle East was not easy; especially with ninety percent of the media running the effort down 24/7.

History will validate the effort.


3 posted on 12/02/2006 9:47:31 AM PST by kjo
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Before I hit that link, I knew that the word "Carter" was not in that editorial.

Eric Foner? Hey, someone put a "r" at the end of his name where the "y" should be.

4 posted on 12/02/2006 9:47:48 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Rats don't abandon a sinking ship, those who abandon a sinking ship become 'Rats.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

The worst thing is that this idiot is a professor at Columbia university, indoctrinating the students.

"Eric Foner is DeWitt Clinton professor of history at Columbia University."


5 posted on 12/02/2006 9:48:55 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: woofie

efoner@aol.com


6 posted on 12/02/2006 9:50:06 AM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
I can't understand why they consider Buchanan a failure. He was President during the war against Mexico and we gained a lot of geography (maybe that's not considered a good thing any more).

While I disagree that Bush is one of the worst ever, I would rate him much lower than I would have two years ago. If he makes enough dealer with Dirty Harry and Ms. Nancy, it's possible he could drop into the lower tier in my ranking system (but probably would be better regarded by historians).
7 posted on 12/02/2006 9:50:49 AM PST by BW2221
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

This type of "ranking" tells us more about the author than about the particular president.


8 posted on 12/02/2006 9:51:15 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Bush has taken this disdain for law even further. He has sought to strip people accused of crimes of rights that date as far back as the Magna Carta in Anglo-American jurisprudence: trial by impartial jury, access to lawyers and knowledge of evidence against them. In dozens of statements when signing legislation, he has asserted the right to ignore the parts of laws with which he disagrees.

Uh, yeah, right. The Presidents considered "great" never did such a thing. I mean, can you imagine President Lincoln just blowing off the Constitution?

9 posted on 12/02/2006 9:53:12 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Rats don't abandon a sinking ship, those who abandon a sinking ship become 'Rats.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

I don't care what anyone says.

Our greatest President was, without a doubt, William Henry Harrison.


10 posted on 12/02/2006 9:53:57 AM PST by jdege
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Is Eric Foner the worst history professor ever? He has my vote. Making a judgement so early in the game, in like the first quarter. At the same point if this were 1863 with Lincoln he would be the worst president ever.


11 posted on 12/02/2006 9:54:56 AM PST by Geostorm
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To: FairOpinion

How about it. I was wondering what history books he's reading, or re-writing.


12 posted on 12/02/2006 9:54:58 AM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Yes worse than Carter..then man that gave us the Iranian problem we have today. The man that killed the economy and shot our image in the world. And that incidnt with the Killer Rabbit...
And Bush is also worse than Clinton. The man who slept thru 8 years and thereby advoiding doing anything to prevent the Muslim terrorist threat. Clinton was a joke of a Pres. Who gave us " It depends on the defintion of "is" Is"
And, if the truth be told, Clinton is the Man on whose the blood of countless Americans has on his hands. His selling of missle secrets to the Red Chinese are the stuff that legands are made of. The way he deftly advoiding catching OBL, thereby making 911 happen. And who can forget the way he hit that Asprin factory and the empty terrorist training site. Yes Clinton was the greatest President----- that our enemies ever had.


13 posted on 12/02/2006 9:55:14 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( When are we going to draw a line a say"this far and no farther")
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To: BW2221
I can't understand why they consider Buchanan a failure. He was President during the war against Mexico

Buchanan wasn't the President during the Mexican War...it was Polk. Buchanan, on the other hand did help quiet things down in the San Juan Islands (WA) dispute of 1859 (also called the Pig War). Because of Buchanan we didn't go to war with the British over ownership of the Islands and that's a good thing to be remembered by.

14 posted on 12/02/2006 9:55:29 AM PST by teacherwoes (A fugitive from a Democratically-controlled Congress)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

scholars consider Reconstruction a flawed but noble attempt



I know a few old timers from the Pineywoods of E. Texas that called Reconstruction the Northern Occupation.


15 posted on 12/02/2006 9:56:53 AM PST by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: jdege

LOL.


16 posted on 12/02/2006 9:57:08 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Consult your doctor before taking tagline. Do not take tagline with alcohol.)
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To: BW2221
I can't understand why they consider Buchanan a failure. He was President during the war against Mexico and we gained a lot of geography (maybe that's not considered a good thing any more).

That would be James K Polk who was President during the Mexican-American War. Buchanan preceded Lincoln.

17 posted on 12/02/2006 9:57:26 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Just one day without polls would be nice.)
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To: teacherwoes

Ah, you beat me by a minute. :-)


18 posted on 12/02/2006 9:57:53 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Just one day without polls would be nice.)
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To: BW2221

No. Polk fought the Mexican War. Buchanan was President just before the Civil War; did little except try and ram the Lecompton (Kansas Constitution) down the throats of the North.

It didn't work.


19 posted on 12/02/2006 9:58:20 AM PST by kjo
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Don't you just love "polls?"

His example of the Reconstruction era polls is a prime example of skewing polls, though. If Southerners had been polled, any doubts the results would list Lincoln as the worst?

Even in the 50s in the South (where I grew up) Lincoln was still considered a dirty name.


20 posted on 12/02/2006 9:58:32 AM PST by DakotaRed (Kerry Should Resign!)
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