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12/02/2006 Middle East Live Daily Thread
Middle East Live Daily Thread ^ | 12/02/2006 | debg

Posted on 12/02/2006 9:06:25 AM PST by debg

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To: Txsleuth

I heard that. Ginsberg is of the school that all can be solved by talking...and taking a few bribes along the way. How dare he say Condi has dropped the ball because she doesn't have an "envoy" over there. She goes herself. I think DC has more second guessers than anywhere else on the planet.


21 posted on 12/02/2006 9:52:08 AM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: Bahbah

I will anwer your post from the other thread here..Thank you!

But, re: Ginsberg. I am really glad that Brian had someone on opposite him that actually disagreed with him. Usually Marc is on by himself...and he can distort and get away with it...I never forget he is a lib.

One thing this war has taught me...that no matter what someone on these shows is supposed to be an "expert" on....they are ALWAYS guided by the political POV...and it is very discouraging.

Maybe Ollie North is the exception...


22 posted on 12/02/2006 10:01:13 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Txsleuth

I think Ollie's point of view is like ours, he loves America, believes we are good, and he wants to WIN.


23 posted on 12/02/2006 10:06:13 AM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: EternalHope

OT - Thanks for posting that. I remember her. Akiane was on the same Oprah show that one of my past students was on.

http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200310/20031021/tows_slide_20031021_05.jhtml


24 posted on 12/02/2006 10:11:06 AM PST by debg
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To: Bahbah

I was kind of surprised when Bill O'Reilly said on his program that there are groups in the USA that really don't want us to win the war.

Somebody is noticing...but, Bill doesn't reach enough people...

I don't agree with his totally negative assessment of the war...but, at least he recoginizes that the Bush Admin does want to win.


25 posted on 12/02/2006 10:13:34 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: debg
Akiane was on the same Oprah show that one of my past students was on.

You must have had some REALLY talented students!

Akiane is 12 now. At the time of the Oprah show she was 9. Her paintings had sold for up to $25,000 at the time.

She's now considered one of the top 20 artists in the world, regardless of age. Last summer one of her paintings sold for $5 million at a charity auction.

26 posted on 12/02/2006 10:26:55 AM PST by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: EternalHope

OT - I have had some very talented students. I did all things technology at an art/design magnet school.

Don't forget to get her autograph when you meet her!


27 posted on 12/02/2006 10:35:52 AM PST by debg
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To: All

Saudis work to curb Iran's influence

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Worried by Iran's deepening involvement in the Arab world, Saudi Arabia has been working quietly to curtail the Shiite nation's influence and prevent the marginalization of Sunni Muslims in the region's hotspots.

Analysts say the tug-of-war between the two Mideast powers signals a new chapter in an uneasy relationship, one that has swung over the years between wariness and - at times - outright confrontation.

On the surface, both countries have maintained the civil front that has marked ties since a thaw in relations in the early 1990s.

"But events on the ground indicate that the two countries are working against each other as their differences are played out outside their borders," said Ibrahim Bayram, a reporter for the Lebanese An-Nahar newspaper, who follows the country's pro-Iranian Hezbollah group.

Saudi Arabia, a key U.S. ally in the region, has been putting its economic and diplomatic weight behind groups in direct confrontation with factions backed by Iran in every major conflict zone in the region - Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories.

The kingdom has also expressed concerns over Iran's nuclear program. The U.S. contends Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons, which Iran denies. But Saudi Arabia has fears even about a peaceful nuclear program because of the possible environmental threat and the potential for conflict between Iran and U.S. troops stationed in Kuwait, Qatar and Bahrain.

A Saudi official said Iran has sent messages expressing its desire to work with the kingdom to resolve the area's conflicts. But the official said Iran's actions speak louder than those messages, making Saudi Arabia cautious in dealing with Tehran. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

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http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/world/16149745.htm


28 posted on 12/02/2006 10:42:52 AM PST by debg
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To: Txsleuth

Bill believes that we can't win either.

He doesn't think those little brown skinned people are evolved enough for democracy.


29 posted on 12/02/2006 11:23:17 AM PST by Blue State Insurgent (Those who know the truth need to speak out against these kinds of myths, and lies, and distortions..)
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To: debg; All

Saudi detains 139 suspected militants: TV
Sat Dec 2, 2006 2:05pm ET

RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia, fighting a violent campaign by al Qaeda supporters, has detained 139 suspected Islamist militants including a would-be suicide bomber, Al Arabiya television said on Saturday.

The militants were not Saudi nationals and included leaders of several cells, it said, citing a Saudi Interior Ministry statement. It gave no names but said the arrests had been made over the past two months.

Al Qaeda supporters began a campaign to bring down the U.S.-allied Saudi royal family in May 2003 with suicide bombings against Western housing compounds in Riyadh.

Officials say more than 136 militants and 150 foreigners and Saudis, including security forces, have since died though the violence has ebbed in the face of tougher security measures.

The authorities in the world's biggest oil exporter have been seizing dozens of al Qaeda members or sympathisers around the country for months, but the latest round up was large.

Arabiya said the suspected suicide bomber was captured with the equipment to carry out such an attack but gave no more details about the plot. The militants were also in possession of religious decrees allowing attacks on businesses and banks.


http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-12-02T190529Z_01_L02271618_RTRUKOC_0_US-SAUDI-MILITANTS-ARRESTS.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-topNews-1


30 posted on 12/02/2006 11:25:19 AM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: Bahbah
The militants were also in possession of religious decrees allowing attacks on businesses and banks.

That's an interesting tidbit. (Who signed the decrees? An anonymous cleric? Al Qaeda?)

31 posted on 12/02/2006 11:36:49 AM PST by debg
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To: debg; Txsleuth

Good job, debg. But you're an old hand around here, unlike the rest of us "newbies." LOL.

Very nice. We could form a committee or something, each take a day for posting the thread ....? I'd be willing to give it a shot.

And, I'd love to see 'Sleuth do it, LOL.


32 posted on 12/02/2006 11:52:50 AM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: Blue State Insurgent; All
Cute. BOR is insufferable, isn't he? He just tries to follow popular opinion.

Here's more from our President:

Radio Address by the President to the Nation

I recognize that the recent violence in Iraq has been unsettling. Many people in our country are wondering about the way forward. The work ahead will not be easy, yet by helping Prime Minister Maliki strengthen Iraq's democratic institutions and promote national reconciliation, our military leaders and diplomats can help put Iraq on a solid path to liberty and democracy. The decisions we make in Iraq will be felt across the broader Middle East.


33 posted on 12/02/2006 11:58:16 AM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: debg
Who signed the decrees?

I would love to know. I hope the signatory is the next target.

34 posted on 12/02/2006 12:00:56 PM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: La Enchiladita; Txsleuth; 4butnomorethan30characters

It really is easy to do. "4" posted instructions on his profile page.


35 posted on 12/02/2006 12:16:48 PM PST by debg
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To: Bahbah

Gaza women warned of immodesty

A hitherto unknown group calling itself the Just Swords of Islam issued a warning to Palestinian women in the Gaza Strip over the weekend that they must wear the hijab or face being targeted by the group's members.

In pamphlets distributed in various parts of the Gaza Strip, the group also claimed responsibility for attacks on 12 Internet cafes over the past few days.

The warning was directed primarily against female students in a number of universities and colleges who do not cover their heads in line with Islamic tradition.

The group said its followers last week threw acid at the face of a young woman who was dressed "immodestly" in the center of Gaza City. They also destroyed a car belonging to a young man who was playing his radio tape too loudly.

Addressing female students, the group said: "We will have no mercy on any woman who violates the traditions of Islam and who also hang out in Internet cafes."

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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1164881802888&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


36 posted on 12/02/2006 12:19:43 PM PST by debg
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To: Blue State Insurgent

Yes...I have heard him say that...more on his radio show than the TV show...but, you are right.


40 posted on 12/02/2006 12:31:52 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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