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Towards immortality[Transhumanism]
The World in 2007 ^ | 2007 Print Edition | Alun Anderson

Posted on 12/01/2006 10:35:12 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman

The growing power to change human nature

Science can be a little scary. Its potential to transform life itself has led to predictions that we might re-write our own genetic make-up or merge our minds with machines. But 2007 will show that it is not these sci-fi possibilities that are of immediate concern. Real possibilities of changing our human nature are creeping up from a less obvious direction. More and more drugs developed to treat disease are turning out also to offer the potential to “enhance” the cognitive powers of healthy people, and to push human life expectancy much further, perhaps to 115 years and beyond.

The potential to alter our nature and lifespans elicits strong reactions. The transhumanists—a loose coalition of scientists, technologists and thinkers who seek opportunities to enhance the human condition—see change as desirable. Human nature, says Nick Bostrom, an Oxford University philosopher and advocate of transhumanism, is “a work in progress, a half-baked beginning that we can learn to remould in desirable ways…we shall eventually manage to become posthuman, beings with vastly greater capacities than present human beings have.” Others argue that we will never have sufficient wisdom to make ourselves more than we are. Francis Fukuyama of Johns Hopkins University describes transhumanism as one of “the world’s most dangerous ideas”. But whatever you may think, the possibilities for changing your nature by direct biochemical intervention are arriving now.

There is no greater goal for transhumanism than the conquest of death. Some of the most controversial advocates of technological improvements to humans, including Ray Kurzweil, an American inventor and author, and Aubrey de Grey, a gerontologist and chairman of the Methuselah Foundation, argue optimistically that immortality may become achievable for people who are alive today. But even without the yet-to-be-invented technologies that they say will make this possible, there are good reasons why we can hope to live a lot longer.

Transhumanists question the conventional wisdom that the human lifespan is coming to a natural limit. History shows that every limit announced by experts is quickly overturned. Back in 1928, an American demographer, Louis Dublin, calculated that the upper limit on average life expectancy would be 64.8 years, a daring figure at the time, with American life expectancy then just 57 years. But now his figure looks timid, given that life expectancy for women in Okinawa, Japan, has passed 85.3 years, 20 years more than Dublin claimed possible. Also looking timid are the scientists who later predicted that life expectancy would nowhere pass 78 years (in 1952), 79 years (1980) and 82.5 years (1984).

Can this steady rise in life expectancy be replaced with a giant leap? Many transhumanists think so. We already know that cutting back severely on calories in the diet can give life expectancy a remarkable boost—between 30% and 50%—in a range of animals. Now evidence is emerging not only that this approach may work in humans but also that drugs may provide the benefits of calorie restriction without the pains of the diet.

Life-extension enthusiasts who have been eating just 1,800 calories a day for an average of six years (a healthy Western diet averages 2,700 calories a day) do indeed show signs that their bodily ageing is slowing. Eating far fewer calories does not simply slow metabolism, nor do the advantages come just from being thin, as aggressive calorie-burning exercise does not confer the same benefits. Rather, calorie restriction appears to trigger natural defences designed to boost the chances of survival during periods of food scarcity. As many of those defensive responses are co-ordinated by a set of genes called sirtuins, there is a chance that drugs can be used to trigger their action directly, without the diet. Chemicals that affect sirtuin activity have been found in plants and one, resveratrol, extends lifespan in test animals. In one species of fish, maximum lifespan increased by almost 60%. Humans will be pleased to know that resveratrol occurs naturally in red wine

Efforts to develop sirtuin-targeting drugs and test them for clinical safety are under way, but the companies working on them stress a goal of activating “health-promoting genes”, rather than life-extension itself. That is just too controversial.

The same is true of other drugs that may enhance human capabilities. Modafinil provides an interesting example. The drug was developed to treat narcolepsy and sleep problems but is a hit with healthy people who want to improve their concentration and skip sleep. Modafinil users dramatically improve their ability to solve classic tests of planning ability, like the Tower of London task where sets of coloured discs on pegs have to be moved from one pattern to another in the fewest moves. More than 40 other cognitive enhancement drugs are under study around the world.

Numerous drugs are also in development that may enhance or alter memory. In the brain, memories are coded in patterns of links between nerve cells and are laid down in two stages: the first when the strength of signals between cells is temporarily enhanced and the second when memory is consolidated through the synthesis of new proteins. Ampakine drugs target the first stage, boosting excitatory communication between nerve cells, as well as stimulating brain growth. Results are encouraging, at least for middle-aged rats. Recently scientists found that the drug turned back the clock for a key measure of decline in memory function.

Another drug, propranolol, has the quite different aim of weakening troubling memories. Memories are etched with particular strength in stressful situations, including wars, car accidents and rapes. Later these memories can return as a painful part of post-traumatic stress disorder. Propranolol blocks the impact of stress hormones on memory formation and, if taken very soon after the trauma, turns down the intensity of recall. More surprising is a new drug called ZIP (Zeta Inhibitor Peptide) that makes rats forget everything they learnt recently, without affecting their learning ability. ZIP has not been tested in humans but has the potential to wipe out all new memories.

Transhumanists have been quick to debate where such drugs might lead: not only might they lessen stress disorders, but they could also remove the feeling of guilt by lessening memories of wrongdoing, or dull the pains of love lost. Such possibilities highlight the problems of playing with human nature. We may be more efficient, but without the feelings of others around us.

That leaves us with the great unresolved debate in transhumanism: whether, if we choose to “enhance” ourselves, we can say we are the same person afterwards, and whether that matters. But one thing is certain: whatever ailment drugs may be developed to treat, if they can also be used to provide someone with a competitive advantage, or prolong life, people will take them.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: immotality; transhumanism; transhumanists
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Transhumanists have been quick to debate where such drugs might lead: not only might they lessen stress disorders, but they could also remove the feeling of guilt by lessening memories of wrongdoing, or dull the pains of love lost. Such possibilities highlight the problems of playing with human nature. We may be more efficient, but without the feelings of others around us.

That leaves us with the great unresolved debate in transhumanism: whether, if we choose to “enhance” ourselves, we can say we are the same person afterwards, and whether that matters. But one thing is certain: whatever ailment drugs may be developed to treat, if they can also be used to provide someone with a competitive advantage, or prolong life, people will take them.

1 posted on 12/01/2006 10:35:15 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Some of the most controversial advocates of technological improvements to humans, including Ray Kurzweil, an American inventor and author, and Aubrey de Grey, a gerontologist and chairman of the Methuselah Foundation, argue optimistically that immortality may become achievable for people who are alive today.

Undoubtedly aging will be conquered, but while Kurzweil and de Gray are undoubtedly more knowledgeable than I am, I doubt it will happen within their lifetimes or mine. A pity for them and me. But maybe our grandchildren will live to see it.
2 posted on 12/01/2006 10:55:12 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I consider myself to be a transhumanist.


3 posted on 12/01/2006 10:57:45 PM PST by sourcery
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To: sourcery

Do you have any problem with combing Human DNA with Animal or with Plant DNA to improve your health?

Would you still be 'Human' if you used those products?

Do you have any problem with GM plants that might use Human/Animal DNA with their products?


4 posted on 12/01/2006 11:01:29 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman (One man with courage is a majority.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
while Kurzweil and de Gray are undoubtedly more knowledgeable than I am, I doubt it will happen within their lifetimes or mine.

If you read Kurzweils latest book "The Singularity Is Near" he lays out a convincing argument that we are only a few decades from dramatic life extending breakthroughs.

The trick is to "Live long enough to live forever"

5 posted on 12/02/2006 12:16:46 AM PST by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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To: Bobalu
If you read Kurzweils latest book "The Singularity Is Near" he lays out a convincing argument that we are only a few decades from dramatic life extending breakthroughs.

The trick is to "Live long enough to live forever"


I've read Kurzweil's books and, while I'm convinced that aging will be conquered, I'm not convinced that Kurzweil's vision of immortality by increments is likely in the time frame he's talking about. The advances in molecular manufacturing and bio-engineering which must happen for the aging process to be slowed, let alone stopped, are a long way away. In addition, these advances are being and will continue to be delayed by concerns about the safety of nanotechnology and by bio-ethical concerns - the FDA doesn't even consider aging to be a disease worthy of eventual treatment. These advances will happen, but I don't think Kurzweil takes into account the hurdles that must be overcome in persuading society and government of the value of defeating the aging process. Throw in the actual R&D that needs to be done, and what I think is Kurzweil's mis-application of Moore's Law, and I don't see this stuff happening before late in the century.
6 posted on 12/02/2006 1:42:07 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: FLOutdoorsman
The universal human dissatisfaction with mortality is the effort to reach out for something eternal.
7 posted on 12/02/2006 3:44:33 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
What is life? Cognizance? If so, then it's merely an electro-chemical reaction. No reason why it can't be stored in a machine or live on a network (or be transmitted to a distant planet at the speed of light).

By artificially triggering senses (e.g., why do we enjoy the taste of good food, the sound of music, the sight of a beautiful day?), one could enjoy all the joys of being alive without really being alive.

8 posted on 12/02/2006 3:57:59 AM PST by Chuck Dent
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To: Bobalu
'The trick is to "Live long enough to live forever"'

Quality of life is important as well, IMO. I work in long-term care, and we have people who are in awful shape but keep clinging to life. Also Alzheimer's patients who died by inches. Long life in itself doesn't appeal to me at all.

Carolyn

9 posted on 12/02/2006 4:06:25 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: sourcery

I'd prefer to be a cyborg. Man-made replacement parts have a longer useful lifespan than organic sources .There is speculation that brain functions from a human will be able to be transferred to a memory bank within the next 25 years . That could entail transferring the "soul" of a human into a zip drive of sort .


10 posted on 12/02/2006 4:26:41 AM PST by Renegade
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A human is a very complex system and when then find one treatment for one of the maladys of aging there are a multitude more to overcome.

Its more likely many generations will pass before they can consistently stretch life for an additional decade let alone to 'live forever'.

Another aspect is at what cost do these treatments come??
Will more than a handful be able to afford them? Could government (and taxpayers) largess make them available to the general public?

So far, significant progress in such things is just science fiction.
11 posted on 12/02/2006 4:32:15 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Chemicals that affect sirtuin activity have been found in plants and one, resveratrol, extends lifespan in test animals. In one species of fish, maximum lifespan increased by almost 60%. Humans will be pleased to know that resveratrol occurs naturally in red wine

And they've found that it takes massive quantities of resveratrol to have the effect. Far too much to be practical for human consumption.

12 posted on 12/02/2006 4:36:08 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Chuck Dent
What is life? Cognizance? If so, then it's merely an electro-chemical reaction. No reason why it can't be stored in a machine or live on a network (or be transmitted to a distant planet at the speed of light).

By artificially triggering senses (e.g., why do we enjoy the taste of good food, the sound of music, the sight of a beautiful day?), one could enjoy all the joys of being alive without really being alive.

I wondered if possibly technology will develop to the point of transfering (copying) a persons id to a digital body or a self aware sentience will be formed that in theory could last forever as long as there is a machine to host the "program." Perhaps human legacy will be to create a new digital life that will travel the stars.

Maybe it'll name a street after us.

13 posted on 12/02/2006 4:50:43 AM PST by Toadman (I voted)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Tek Wars.... William Shatner was onto something big.


(I can't believe that statement on its face, but one must give credit where it is due.)


14 posted on 12/02/2006 5:30:05 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: FLOutdoorsman
The singularity in Kurzweil's book is the point at which we have created a machine intelligence greater than our own. We cannot see or predict what will happen after that.

Because that intelligence can then evolve its own technology at an exponential pace, well beyond the capability of human understanding.

How do we maintain control of an intelligence far superior to our own ?


BUMP

15 posted on 12/02/2006 5:46:04 AM PST by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: wodinoneeye

"So far, significant progress in such things is just science fiction."

Google "Ganesh particle"..... as well as "Project lotus"

use quotation marks.

DR B works for major Pharmi now and you can follow some interesting work being done in the waters of the west coast if you look hard enough.

http://www.eaglesdisobey.net/Q94_pg2.htm


16 posted on 12/02/2006 5:59:12 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Renegade
There is speculation that brain functions from a human will be able to be transferred to a memory bank within the next 25 years . That could entail transferring the "soul" of a human into a zip drive of sort.

Yes that is the short term holy grail.

After you die your 'soul' could be stored until a cyborg body replacement is available in some distant future.

And travel at the speed of light to a distant star system where it can be re-incorporated.

We need to make time irrelevant.


BUMP

17 posted on 12/02/2006 6:00:23 AM PST by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: wodinoneeye

...an up to date day to day account is here:

http://www.neweaglesforum.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1159784667&page=9


18 posted on 12/02/2006 6:02:33 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: capitalist229

Been there, done that. Look around. It is ongoing.

http://www.eaglesdisobey.net/wm_corner.htm


19 posted on 12/02/2006 6:04:16 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Life-extension enthusiasts who have been eating just 1,800 calories a day for an average of six years (a healthy Western diet averages 2,700 calories a day) do indeed show signs that their bodily ageing is slowing.

Hate to be a killjoy here but I have to wonder what sort of exercise they get. For example if you're working out you need a certain amount of carbs for muscle growth, as well as a healthy amount of protein, etc. If the caloric intake is too low, or imbalanced, you don't increase muscle mass and you weaken while working out or doing cardio. 1800 calories you'd be a stick with no strength I would think

20 posted on 12/02/2006 6:08:38 AM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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