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CA: Shelters provide stability for illegal immigrant children
AP on North County Times ^ | 12/1/06 | Peter Prengaman - ap

Posted on 12/01/2006 7:54:05 PM PST by NormsRevenge

FULLERTON -- Life in a government-run shelter for illegal immigrant children might not sound very inviting, but for 16-year-old Sandra it's a vast improvement from what she left behind in Guatemala.

For starters, she has enough to eat and nobody beats her. She even gets to study, a luxury she hasn't had since leaving school in third grade.

She's been on her own since she was 10, when she fled an abusive home in Guatemala. She was picked up by U.S. immigration authorities two months ago while trying to enter the country illegally through the Arizona desert. She's among two dozen children at the shelter in Fullerton, about 35 miles southeast of Los Angeles.

"I feel more protected here than I've ever felt. It's like I'm a young girl again," said Sandra, whose last name could not be disclosed because she is a minor in government custody.

What happens when unaccompanied children are picked up varies by their country. Mexican children generally are sent straight back to their home country. Those not from Mexico are housed in shelters while the government decides whether to release them to family living in the United States, deport them or put them in foster care.

The shelters, meant to be a temporary refuge, resemble college dorms, where the children take English classes, receive medical care and play soccer at local parks.

"This is like a hotel," said Edwin, a 17-year-old Honduran detained while trying to cross the Arizona-Mexico border.

Before 2003, the children were often put in juvenile detention centers. They lived more like criminals than schoolchildren, and the conditions prompted lawsuits. Congress intervened and assigned the care of unaccompanied children to the Office of Refugee Resettlement, which revamped and expanded a sparingly used shelter system.

While day-to-day life is better, civil rights and legal groups criticize the system for not preparing children for the legal process awaiting them.

After being released, thousands don't show up to their immigration court hearings because of confusion about the process or fear they'll be deported. Many who don't show up would be eligible for U.S. residence because they were abandoned or abused in their homeland.

Sandra, who says her father beat her so often that she fled her home, could get a green card if she is able to convince a judge of the abuse and years on her own.

Civil rights groups say children like Sandra need legal help to navigate the immigration system.

"Most never apply for a legal status they are eligible for because nobody helps them," said Peter Schey, an immigration lawyer in Los Angeles who specializes in minors.

A majority of the 7,800 immigrant minors who passed through government custody last year were teenagers from Central America, though countries of origin span from China to Iraq. Their reasons for coming vary, from seeking work or reuniting with family to fleeing violent street gangs.

On average, they spend between 45 and 60 days at a shelter in Arizona, California, Washington, Illinois, Indiana, Texas, New York or Florida.

Anti-illegal immigration groups say they are sensitive to the plight of children, but argue there are few situations that warrant allowing them to stay here. They are particularly unsympathetic to minors who come to be reunited with family members who themselves came here illegally.

If their parents "break the laws, and in doing so they broke up their families, it's their obligation to fix it," said Ira Mehlman, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

Fear of deportation pushes some children to flee the shelters, even though by law they can't be sent home until after a hearing or agreeing to leave the country.

Lynda Scarlino, program director at the Fullerton shelter, said children close to 18 are particularly jumpy because they know as an adult they can be immediately deported.

Elsa, a 17-year-old Guatemalan who is eight months pregnant, is worried she'll be sent home. Her parents still are in Guatemala; she came to work and support them. She hopes she'll be released to a brother living in Phoenix before she turns 18.

Children can be released to adult relatives, regardless of their immigration status, if case managers at the shelters deem them capable providers.

No matter what, Elsa said, she can't attempt to do anything before she has the baby, who if born in the United States will be an American citizen. But the baby's status doesn't remove the possibility that Elsa could be deported.

"It's better for me to wait," she Elsa. "If I leave here and they catch me again it will be worse."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; children; illegalimmigrant; immigrantlist; shelters; stability

1 posted on 12/01/2006 7:54:11 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

It's a tough balancing act...law enforcement vs. compassion. A ten year old fleeing an abusive home and eventually sneaking into our country is a lot harder to find fault with than a drug smuggling thug or an ordinary opportunist.

Just getting enough to eat and being treated decently is an unusual event in their lives; even if they are sent back, they'll remember. Does that mean they'll try again, or will they attempt to enter legally next time? Who knows?

The greatest compassion would be to help them solve the problems that drive them here, but we can't be the "cops of the world" forever.


2 posted on 12/01/2006 8:32:48 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: JimRed
... if they are sent back, they'll remember. Does that mean they'll try again, or will they attempt to enter legally next time?

How about a third option, where it's no longer convenient for them to cross the border illegally?

Does that mean we are condemning them to a life of misery, or motivating them to improve conditions in their own country?

3 posted on 12/01/2006 8:45:41 PM PST by ZOOKER ( How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh, how sweet.

Now close the shelters.


4 posted on 12/01/2006 9:23:38 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: NormsRevenge
"I feel more protected here than I've ever felt. It's like I'm a young girl again," said Sandra, whose last name could not be disclosed because she is a minor in government custody.

actually, given that she probably has no valid papers and was trained to lie about her actual name, chances are that no-one knows her actual last name.

5 posted on 12/01/2006 9:55:39 PM PST by ikka
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1) Convert the 'shelters' for ILLEGAL immigrants to private funding (so the libtards can put their money where theor mouths are). OR create a voluntary 'liberal tax' to pay for them.


2) Shut the shelters down as part of the Closing of the Borders and driving out the illegals campaign.
(Libtards can pay for shelters in whatever country the illegals come from)



Definition: Neo-Liberal - Someone who is generous with
other peoples money. A political philosophy not based on facts, reason or logic. --See Mental Illness
6 posted on 12/01/2006 11:30:58 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: NormsRevenge

give me a violin and a welfare check. the two go hand in hand.


7 posted on 12/02/2006 12:32:00 AM PST by RacerX1128
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To: NormsRevenge

Lets just get all of the 8 billion of the worlds population in here....they would obviously be better off. Then we could let god sort it out.

I am tired of the sob stories. All 8 billion would have one. Someone needs to draw a line.


8 posted on 12/02/2006 12:36:38 AM PST by TheLion (We are not the health maintenance organization for Mexico)
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To: ZOOKER

do people realize how many hundreds of millions if not billions of people in the world are better off in a crappy american shelter than in their miserable third world hovel? this is unsustainable. and it is unfair to burden taxpayers with the cost. history is going to look back at this time and equate it with rome's decision to let the visigoths cross the danube. they'll just keep coming.


9 posted on 12/02/2006 6:36:18 AM PST by Uncle Billy ("A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away all you have")
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To: wodinoneeye

How true!!!


10 posted on 12/02/2006 6:39:09 AM PST by Plains Drifter (America First, Last, and Always!!!)
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To: ZOOKER
How about a third option, where it's no longer convenient for them to cross the border illegally?

Correct, which is why I've been saying (for years) BUILD THE WALL, NOW!

11 posted on 12/02/2006 7:52:23 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


12 posted on 12/02/2006 9:36:53 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: JimRed; NormsRevenge

I wouldn't have any problems withj these shelters at all IF and only IF they were funded with voluntary contributions but to use my legally collected tax monies should be a crime!


13 posted on 12/02/2006 3:53:14 PM PST by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Most never apply for a legal status they are eligible for because nobody helps them," said Peter Schey, an immigration lawyer in Los Angeles who specializes in minors.

Yet they seem to know quite a bit about the immigration system already:

Lynda Scarlino, program director at the Fullerton shelter, said children close to 18 are particularly jumpy because they know as an adult they can be immediately deported.

14 posted on 12/02/2006 4:27:39 PM PST by heleny
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To: B4Ranch
I wouldn't have any problems withj these shelters at all IF and only IF they were funded with voluntary contributions but to use my legally collected tax monies should be a crime!

Agreed, but until the WALL is built (preferably by labor provided by captured illegals) it may be a "necessary evil". The alternative criminal style incarceration and subsequent deportation probably costs as much or more.

15 posted on 12/03/2006 6:53:18 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: ikka

How do they even know she's 16? She could be older, but smart enough to know that if she's a minor she's going to get sanctuary.
I am not without compassion, however, shall we bring every child whose life is not what we think it should be here? Far better to work with them to make changes in their own countries. As long as the US is a safety valve, their own *leaders* have no motivation to improve conditions for the average person there.
susie


16 posted on 12/03/2006 2:42:08 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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