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Polish historians find WWII bomber with remains of Canadian, British crew
CANOE ^ | December 1, 2006 | MONIKA SCISLOWSKA

Posted on 12/01/2006 1:34:36 PM PST by lizol

Polish historians find WWII bomber with remains of Canadian, British crew

By MONIKA SCISLOWSKA

WARSAW, Poland (AP) - Polish historians have recovered a Royal Air Force Halifax bomber from the Second World War and the remains of its Canadian and British crew, a find yielding treasures for a Warsaw museum that could also provide closure for the families of the doomed airmen.

The badly-damaged hull of the bomber from the 148 Squadron RAF, with remains of its crew, documents and personal belongings, was recently found buried under a field near the southern town of Dabrowa Tarnowska, project manager Piotr Sliwowski told The Associated Press.

According to records, the Halifax JP-276A took off on its final flight with a crew of five Canadians and two Britons from the Italian city of Brindisi around 8 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1944. Canadian pilot Capt. A.R. Blynn was leading the mission to drop supplies of weapons and ammunition to the Polish underground as the Warsaw ghetto uprising raged.

But it was shot down by Poland's Nazi occupiers and remained buried for more than six decades until local residents revealed its location earlier this year. They alerted Warsaw's Museum of the 1944 Warsaw Uprising, which started recovery work about two months ago, Sliwowski said.

All elements are now in the museum in the capital undergoing conservation and restoration, said Sliwowski, who heads the museum's history department.

"This is an extraordinary, rare find," Sliwowski said. "There are only three Halifaxes in museums around the world."

The discovery took on a human dimension with the find of the remains of the airmen.

"These were boys aged 28 or 30. Their remains were for decades in the ground; now they will be able to return to their homelands," Sliwowski said.

The historians also found documents, notes and maps and personal items like a folding knife and an well-preserved aviator's badge, "looking like new," Sliwowski said.

"It takes you back 62 years and you start thinking, what were they like, what did they look like, did they have girl friends."

The historians have contacted the British and Canadian embassies in Warsaw.

The plane was part of the Allied effort to supply Poland's resistance near the end of the Second World War. Although its mission came early on in the Warsaw uprising, the planes were banned by British Air Marshal John Slessor from flying over the capital because of the danger and ordered to drop their supplies elsewhere, Sliwowski said.

Containers of weapons and ammunition were found aboard the crashed Halifax.

There are only two restored Halifax bombers in the world, one on display on Britain's Yorkshire Air Museum and the other at the Royal Canadian Air Force Museum in Trenton, Ont. A third Halifax is on display in its "as-recovered" condition at the Royal Air Force Bomber Command Museum in London.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; poland; raf; uk; warsawuprising; ww2
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To: gymbeau

I often get them confused myself...People probably remember the Lancasters because of the Dam Busters..Similar situation in the US...Everyone knows the B-25 due to the Doolittle raid...most couldn't tell you what a B-26 is or looks like...and as regards the 8th USAAF...most people today think the B-17 was the ONLY US bomber in the war, when in fact more B-24s were produced than B-17s, and they flew more missions and dropped more bomb tonnage than the B-17s. Go figure..


21 posted on 12/01/2006 2:11:58 PM PST by ken5050
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To: lizol

Lizol--thank you for the pictures. Please post more if you can find them.

Your home page is terrific. Your hometown is lovely.

The picture of Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan walking together is priceless. It made me very wistful. That was a time when God placed two courageous men together to liberate hundreds of millions of people.

Bet they still walk together.


22 posted on 12/01/2006 2:15:27 PM PST by exit82 (Clinton didn't try. He just failed.)
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To: lizol

Chwala poleglym!!


23 posted on 12/01/2006 2:16:37 PM PST by MarcinPL
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To: exit82; All
According to articles I found in Polish:

The crew

Arnold R. Blynn,
George A. Chapman,
Harold L. Brown,
C. B. Wylie,
Arthur G. W. Liddell,
Frederick G. Wenham,
Kenneth J. Ashmore,

The plane was supposed to drop their cargo near Skiernewice (central Poland, west of Warsaw, 20 km. from the town where I live), but it was shot down before managed to get here.

Plane crashed into mud.
All the remains of the crew members, that the locals found right after the crash had been collected and buried. After the war they were exhumed and buried again in the military part of the Rakowicki Cemetry in Krakow.

Now the historians found parts of the plane (including wings, 2 Rolls-Royce Merlin engines and many more), remains of the crew members, their equipment and personal belongings.

How they found it?

Many people thought, that after the war communist authorities removed the parts of the plane and hid them somewhere.
Recently historians from the Warsaw Uprising Museum in Warsaw contacted some witness, who said, that the communist couldn't manage to take them out, so they left them where they were.
24 posted on 12/01/2006 2:17:32 PM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: ken5050

Am I crazy or did Halifaxes have cloth skin?


25 posted on 12/01/2006 2:22:45 PM PST by BronzePencil (if we outlaw nuclear energy only outlaws will have nuclear energy)
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To: HamiltonJay

Gorgeous plane. Didn't carry as much as a Lancaster and wasn't as heavily armed/armored as an American B-17, but HP sure built a ton of them......


26 posted on 12/01/2006 2:25:58 PM PST by Clifford The Big Red Dog (Woof!)
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To: exit82

27 posted on 12/01/2006 2:27:28 PM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: FastCoyote
Mine flew B-17's. He was in the 384th Bomb Group (H)


28 posted on 12/01/2006 2:28:22 PM PST by Clifford The Big Red Dog (Woof!)
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To: lizol
> The badly-damaged hull of the bomber

RE: Photo

They weren't kidding about being badly damaged.

29 posted on 12/01/2006 2:28:30 PM PST by scan59 (No matter where you go, there you are.)
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To: BronzePencil

The Wellington did. On Halifaxes just the control surfaces were fabric.


30 posted on 12/01/2006 2:29:40 PM PST by Clifford The Big Red Dog (Woof!)
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To: headsonpikes; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; Ryle; ...

PING!
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31 posted on 12/01/2006 2:31:08 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: exit82; All
I don't know how to post a direct link to asf movie about this discovery.

If you like to see it - open this web-page and click "video" button under the picture of the badge.

The comment is in Polish, sorry :-)

http://tvp.pl/2018,20061129427898.strona
33 posted on 12/01/2006 2:36:29 PM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: Clifford The Big Red Dog

Cool, thanks!


34 posted on 12/01/2006 2:47:00 PM PST by BronzePencil (if we outlaw nuclear energy only outlaws will have nuclear energy)
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To: exit82

35 posted on 12/01/2006 2:52:32 PM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: ken5050
...B-25 due to the Doolittle raid...and the Empire State Building.

Here in VT, there's the remains of a B-24 that crashed in to a mountain during the war. The paper runs pieces every so
often. I hiked up Camels Hump to see it once, but the weather was lousy, and other hikers at the summit said there
wasn't much left to see.

There was also the A-20 bomber. Only known from my younger days playing Avalon Hill games.

36 posted on 12/01/2006 2:55:00 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: lizol

The video was great--thank you!


37 posted on 12/01/2006 3:10:41 PM PST by exit82 (Clinton didn't try. He just failed.)
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To: Calvin Locke; ken5050
FYI, if you haven't already seen the site, Canada Aviation Museum.
38 posted on 12/01/2006 3:13:39 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: ken5050

There was no more beautiful bomber in WWII than the Boeing B-17, aesthetically speaking, IMNHO. Graceful and lethal.

Cheers
Jim


39 posted on 12/01/2006 3:29:56 PM PST by gymbeau (I'm Supportin' Morton)
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To: lizol

Grrr. Shame on the journalist whatever nationality she is. As a newsperson reporting on this story she should have done her homework and learned the difference.

Thanks for the story lizol. I wish the plane would have made it with their supplies. :-(


40 posted on 12/01/2006 4:03:58 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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