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Polish historians find WWII bomber with remains of Canadian, British crew
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| December 1, 2006
| MONIKA SCISLOWSKA
Posted on 12/01/2006 1:34:36 PM PST by lizol
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To: gymbeau
I often get them confused myself...People probably remember the Lancasters because of the Dam Busters..Similar situation in the US...Everyone knows the B-25 due to the Doolittle raid...most couldn't tell you what a B-26 is or looks like...and as regards the 8th USAAF...most people today think the B-17 was the ONLY US bomber in the war, when in fact more B-24s were produced than B-17s, and they flew more missions and dropped more bomb tonnage than the B-17s. Go figure..
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:11:58 PM PST
by
ken5050
To: lizol
Lizol--thank you for the pictures. Please post more if you can find them.
Your home page is terrific. Your hometown is lovely.
The picture of Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan walking together is priceless. It made me very wistful. That was a time when God placed two courageous men together to liberate hundreds of millions of people.
Bet they still walk together.
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:15:27 PM PST
by
exit82
(Clinton didn't try. He just failed.)
To: lizol
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:16:37 PM PST
by
MarcinPL
To: exit82; All
According to articles I found in Polish:
The crew
Arnold R. Blynn,
George A. Chapman,
Harold L. Brown,
C. B. Wylie,
Arthur G. W. Liddell,
Frederick G. Wenham,
Kenneth J. Ashmore,
The plane was supposed to drop their cargo near Skiernewice (central Poland, west of Warsaw, 20 km. from the town where I live), but it was shot down before managed to get here.
Plane crashed into mud.
All the remains of the crew members, that the locals found right after the crash had been collected and buried. After the war they were exhumed and buried again in the military part of the Rakowicki Cemetry in Krakow.
Now the historians found parts of the plane (including wings, 2 Rolls-Royce Merlin engines and many more), remains of the crew members, their equipment and personal belongings.
How they found it?
Many people thought, that after the war communist authorities removed the parts of the plane and hid them somewhere.
Recently historians from the Warsaw Uprising Museum in Warsaw contacted some witness, who said, that the communist couldn't manage to take them out, so they left them where they were.
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:17:32 PM PST
by
lizol
(Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
To: ken5050
Am I crazy or did Halifaxes have cloth skin?
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:22:45 PM PST
by
BronzePencil
(if we outlaw nuclear energy only outlaws will have nuclear energy)
To: HamiltonJay
Gorgeous plane. Didn't carry as much as a Lancaster and wasn't as heavily armed/armored as an American B-17, but HP sure built a ton of them......
To: exit82
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:27:28 PM PST
by
lizol
(Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
To: FastCoyote
Mine flew B-17's. He was in the 384th Bomb Group (H)
To: lizol
> The badly-damaged hull of the bomber
RE: Photo
They weren't kidding about being badly damaged.
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:28:30 PM PST
by
scan59
(No matter where you go, there you are.)
To: BronzePencil
The Wellington did. On Halifaxes just the control surfaces were fabric.
To: headsonpikes; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; Ryle; ...
PING!
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:31:08 PM PST
by
GMMAC
(Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: exit82; All
I don't know how to post a direct link to asf movie about this discovery.
If you like to see it - open this web-page and click "video" button under the picture of the badge.
The comment is in Polish, sorry :-)
http://tvp.pl/2018,20061129427898.strona
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:36:29 PM PST
by
lizol
(Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
To: Clifford The Big Red Dog
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:47:00 PM PST
by
BronzePencil
(if we outlaw nuclear energy only outlaws will have nuclear energy)
To: exit82
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posted on
12/01/2006 2:52:32 PM PST
by
lizol
(Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
To: ken5050
...B-25 due to the Doolittle raid...and the Empire State Building.
Here in VT, there's the remains of a B-24 that crashed in to a mountain during the war. The paper runs pieces every so
often. I hiked up Camels Hump to see it once, but the weather was lousy, and other hikers at the summit said there
wasn't much left to see.
There was also the A-20 bomber. Only known from my younger days playing Avalon Hill games.
To: lizol
The video was great--thank you!
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posted on
12/01/2006 3:10:41 PM PST
by
exit82
(Clinton didn't try. He just failed.)
To: Calvin Locke; ken5050
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posted on
12/01/2006 3:13:39 PM PST
by
GMMAC
(Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
To: ken5050
There was no more beautiful bomber in WWII than the Boeing B-17, aesthetically speaking, IMNHO. Graceful and lethal.
Cheers
Jim
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posted on
12/01/2006 3:29:56 PM PST
by
gymbeau
(I'm Supportin' Morton)
To: lizol
Grrr. Shame on the journalist whatever nationality she is. As a newsperson reporting on this story she should have done her homework and learned the difference.
Thanks for the story lizol. I wish the plane would have made it with their supplies. :-(
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posted on
12/01/2006 4:03:58 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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