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Genetically engineered blood protein can be used to split water into oxygen and hydrogen
Physorg.com ^ | Dec 1, 2007 | Imperial College London

Posted on 12/01/2006 7:04:15 AM PST by ConservativeMind

Scientists have combined two molecules that occur naturally in blood to engineer a molecular complex that uses solar energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, says research published today in the Journal of the American Chemical Society.

This molecular complex can use energy from the sun to create hydrogen gas, providing an alternative to electrolysis, the method typically used to split water into its constituent parts. The breakthrough may pave the way for the development of novel ways of creating hydrogen gas for use as fuel in the future.

Professors Tsuchida and Komatsu from Waseda University, Japan, in collaboration with Imperial College London, synthesised a large molecular complex from albumin, a protein molecule that is found at high levels in blood serum, and porphyrin, a molecule which is used to carry oxygen around the body and gives blood its deep red colour. Porphyrin molecules are normally found combined with metals, and in their natural state in the blood they have an iron atom at their centre. The scientists modified the porphyrin molecule to swap the iron for a zinc atom in the middle, which completely changed the chemistry and characteristics of the molecule.

This modified porphyrin molecule was then combined with albumin; with the albumin molecule itself being modified by genetic engineering to enhance the efficiency of the process. The resulting molecular complex was proven to be sensitive to light, and can capture light energy in a way that allows water molecules to be split into molecules of hydrogen and oxygen.

Dr Stephen Curry, a structural biologist from Imperial College London's Division of Cell and Molecular Biology who participated in the research explains: "This work has shown that it is possible to manipulate molecules and proteins that occur naturally in the human body by changing one small detail of their make-up, such as the type of metal at the heart of a porphyrin molecule, as we did in this study.

"It's very exciting to prove that we can use these biological structures as a conduit to harness solar energy to separate water out into hydrogen and oxygen. In the long term, these synthetic molecules may provide a more environmentally friendly way of producing hydrogen, which can be used as a 'green' fuel."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; hydrogen; renewenergy; solar
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To: RobRoy
So, are you trying to tell me that if I have a Hydrogen powered car, the exhaust will be water?

If your combustion is of pure Hydrogen and pure Oxygen, then yes. But more likely you will burn hydrogen in the presence of other gas naturally occurring in our atmosphere, which will include carbon dioxide for example.

41 posted on 12/01/2006 9:14:38 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RobRoy
So, are you trying to tell me that if I have a Hydrogen powered car, the exhaust will be water?

To be clear, even burning Hydrogen with "regular air" is going to yield water (water vapor), but it will not be the only thing coming out of the exhaust pipe. Even Gasoline engine exhaust contains some water vapor.

42 posted on 12/01/2006 9:17:01 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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What happens to the excess Oxygen? If we're producing Hydrogen in megaton bulks, the O has to go someplace. It's all about the O.


43 posted on 12/01/2006 9:17:43 AM PST by vollmond (Sorry, Mom, the mob has spoken!)
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To: fella

"I don't think the term,
'human resources' is
degrading. Our last boss
classified us as
'perishable supplies'."

44 posted on 12/01/2006 9:19:30 AM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: thackney
A spark is not the same as heat.

??

What qualifies as heat? Are there cold sparks? I can light gasoline when its 20 below, but I can't do it without a spark that has a much higher temperature?

Maybe I'm out of my element here, but does't a spark have to be hot?

45 posted on 12/01/2006 9:21:47 AM PST by SampleMan
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To: r9etb
Chemical synthesis of the molecule is still needed, though

They have the E Coli bacteria down cold. They MIGHT be able to hack a gene sequence into the bacteria itself and grow it into culture.

46 posted on 12/01/2006 9:23:29 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: RobRoy
Back in the late sixties I used to do this with friends. We threw some water, aluminum foil and draino into one of those large glass 7-up bottles and fasten a baloon on top.

It would fill with Hydrogen. We'd then get a bunch together and launch at night with a flaming string and "pow". Very pretty mini-Hindenburgs.

That's an awesome trick ... I'll have to try that one day.

47 posted on 12/01/2006 9:27:33 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: thackney

I was just having fun. ;)

I saw a show on PBS in the mid 90's (when I had TV) that covered the whole hydrogen thing. It talked about the exhaust and storage and refilling the tank and stuff like that.

One of the more interesting things described was a type of "rock" they would put in the fuel tank that would absorb the hydrogen but release it so slow that if the tank was ruptured and ignited, the hole would be like a blow torch instead of the tank merely exploding.

They shot two tanks with a rifle - one with the "rocks" and one without. The one with rocks just shot flame out of the hole. The one without rocks exploded.

But I digress.


48 posted on 12/01/2006 9:27:58 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: Centurion2000

We used the "generic" drain cleaner which was the raw chemical. I don't know if you can even get it today. I've even forgotten what it was called. Lye?

Also, if we used the same bottle too many times, the heat broke the bottle. I suppose a modern two liter bottle is out of the question. :)


49 posted on 12/01/2006 9:33:41 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: SampleMan

After the spark, heat is generated. It is still an output after the reaction is started. It is not required to begin the reaction. Heat is immediately generated along with the exhaust, but just like exhaust is not required to start the reaction, neither is heat.


50 posted on 12/01/2006 9:39:58 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Boiler Plate

I printed that article to read tonight. Thank you for the brief expalination and link.


51 posted on 12/01/2006 10:14:32 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If a pug barks and no one is around to hear it... they hold a grudge for a long time!)
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To: K4Harty

Here is a better site with a little experiment you can do at home if you want to make your own hydrogen and oxygen.

http://media.nasaexplores.com/lessons/01-009/9-12_1.pdf


52 posted on 12/01/2006 11:26:26 AM PST by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: ConservativeMind

"This could be the start of cheap hydrogen for all. No electrolysis needed."

If this was truly a major discovery and a source for cheap hydrogen fuel we can assume that it would have been automatically suppressed and the information classified.

If its out in the public domain we can assume that it is not a cost effective way to produce hydrogen.

Does anyone seriously believe that the oil companies would actually allow something like this to become public?


53 posted on 12/01/2006 11:35:49 AM PST by seawolf101
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To: seawolf101

Yes, I do. The Pogue carburetor patent wasn't bought by the oil companies, either.


54 posted on 12/01/2006 12:01:13 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind

--Scientists have combined two molecules that occur naturally in blood to engineer a molecular complex that uses solar energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen--

Count Dracula must be involved, somehow.


55 posted on 12/01/2006 12:39:20 PM PST by rfp1234 (I've had it up to my keyster with these leaks!!! - - - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ConservativeMind

"Scientists have combined two molecules that occur naturally in blood..."

Next Up: "AIDS infected autos."


56 posted on 12/01/2006 1:36:53 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: GOPJ; ConservativeMind

WOW!


57 posted on 12/01/2006 1:40:59 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

:)


58 posted on 12/02/2006 7:31:32 AM PST by GOPJ (Political correctness trumps safety and security. Has everyone lost their minds?)
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To: SampleMan
Combining them molecularly does, simply putting the two elements together doesn't. But what is the catalyst for combining the first H2O molecule? Wouldn't that be heat?

Heat is not a catalyst. "Heat" is a measure of the translational and vibrational / rotational energy of the molecules involved.

A catalyst is an element or substance which increases the rate of a chemical reaction but which is not itself consumed by the reaction.

Think of the catalytic converters in your car's exhaust stream-palladium or similar metal provides a surface on which elements of the exhaust land and then react in a way that they wouldn't be able to do as well when "flying free" so to speak.

Cheers!

59 posted on 12/02/2006 9:53:59 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I'll accept that, I seem to remember the definition of "catalyst" now, but doesn't a spark qualify as heat? Isn't a spark exciting the molecules, albiet in a very small area?


60 posted on 12/03/2006 6:41:36 AM PST by SampleMan
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