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Islam and the Problem of Rationality
The American Thinker ^ | December 01, 2006 | Patrick Poole

Posted on 12/01/2006 3:48:21 AM PST by Northern Alliance

In the run-up to Pope Benedict's current visit to Turkey, TIME Magazine opened its pages to Tariq Ramadan, Europe's favorite Islamist and perhaps the most influential Muslim figure in the West today. Ramadan chided the Pope and Europe for ignoring the positive contributions of Islam to the development of rational thought in the West.

Writing in response to Benedict's now-famous Regensburg speech (which prompted outrage in the Muslim world) and the Pope's first visit to a predominantly Muslim country, Ramadan's article, "And He's Still in the Dark", offers a back-handed compliment to Benedict's attempt at dialogue with Muslims, warning that the Pope's efforts actually threatens the West, and directs Muslims in the West to their point of apologetic attack:

As I have written before, this profoundly European Pope is inviting the people of his continent to become aware of the central, inescapable character of Christianity within their identity, or risk losing it. That may be a legitimate goal, but Benedict's narrow definition of European identity is deeply troubling and potentially dangerous. This is what Muslims must respond to: the tendency of Westerners to ignore the critical role that Muslims played in the development of Western thought. Those who "forget" the decisive contributions of rationalist Muslim thinkers like al-Farabi (10th century), Avicenna (11th century), Averroes (12th century), al-Ghazali (12th century), Ash-Shatibi (13th century) and Ibn Khaldun (14th century) are reconstructing a Europe that is not only an illusion but also self-deceptive about its past.

But in fact, it is Ramadan who is operating under an illusion and is self-deceived about Islam's supposed prominent role in shaping the rationalist tradition of Christendom. As an article ("The Pope and the Prophet") by Robert Reilly in the current issue of Crisis Magazine ably notes, Western Christianity's rational tradition developed in the Medieval era precisely as a result of the outright rejection of the irrationalism inherent in Islamic philosophy, not the embracing of it.

Any hope of the development of a rational tradition within Islam was dashed with the rise of Caliph Ja'afar al-Mutawakkil (847-861). Prior to al-Mutawakkil's rule, a rationalist philosophy had begun to develop under the Mu'tazilite school of interpretation, which advocated for a created, as opposed to an uncreated, Quran. But Caliph al-Mutawakkil condemned the Mu'tazilite school, which opened the door for the rival Ash'arite interpretation, founded by al-Ash'ari (d. 935), to eventually take preeminence within Sunni Islam - a position of dominance it has retained over the centuries. By 1200 A.D., any hope of recovering a semblance of rational Islamic philosophy was seemingly forever lost.

It was the work of the very Islamic philosophers that Ramadan cites that prompted Europe Christian thinkers to make a break with their Muslim counterparts. Historically, the views of the Ash'arite school were rooted in the theological dogma of "volunteerism", which holds that rather than created objects having inherent existence, Allah constantly recreates each atom anew at every moment according to his arbitrary will. This, of course, undermines the basis for what Westerners understand as natural laws.

From volunteerism sprung another irrational idea amongst Muslim thinkers - occasionalism - that further prevented the development of rationalism within the Islamic tradition. Occasionalism is the belief that in the natural world, what is perceived as cause and effect between objects is mere appearance, not reality. Instead, only Allah truly acts with real effect; all seemingly natural observances of causation are merely manifestations of Allah's habits, for Allah simultaneously creates both the cause and the effect according to his arbitrary will. This view is best expressed by one of the Islamic philosophers cited by Ramadan, al-Ghazali (1059-1111), in his book, The Incoherence of the Philosophers:

The connection between what is habitually believed to be the cause and what is habitually believed to be the effect is not necessary for us. But in the case of two things, neither of which is the other and where neither the affirmation nor the negation of the one entails the affirmation or the negation of the other, the existence or non-existence of the one does not necessitate the existence or non-existence of the other; for example, the quenching of thirst and drinking, satiety and eating, burning and contact with fire, light and the rising of the sun, death and decapitation.... On the contrary, it is within God's power to create satiety without eating, death without decapitation, to prolong life after decapitation and so on in the case of all concomitant things. (quoted in "Causation in Islamic Thought" from the Dictionary of the History of Ideas)

Using al-Ghazali's own analogy of decapitation, according to the occasionalist view, when a sword struck off a person's head causing death, it only merely appeared that the sword was the cause of the decapitation: the real and primary cause of the decapitation and the death was the will of Allah, not the sword. The sword, in fact, played no part at all. Had Allah willed it so, the sword could have cut through the neck without decapitation or death. To believe otherwise, Islamic occasionalism held, would be a limitation of the omnipotence of Allah. As with volunteerism, the consequences of occasionalism had catastrophic effects for the development of empirical science in the Islamic world.

Occasionalism was rigorously opposed by the two great philosophers of Medieval Europe, Albert Magnus and Thomas Aquinas, along with the great medieval Jewish philosopher, Moses Maimonides (1135-1204), who lived and wrote in Muslim-occupied Spain. The Fourth Lateran Council (1215) also addressed the threat posed by Islamic occasionalism by affirming the ancient Christian truth that God created the universe ex nihilo (from nothing). This prevented the volunteerist view from gaining ground in the West, and thus occasionalism, merely by stating that God had actually created, and that objects in the natural world created by God have an actual inherent existence and do not need to be constantly recreated.

Other problems developed within Islamic philosophy which prevented the rise of rationalism. Perhaps the most notable following volunteerism and occasionalism is the "dual-truth" theory advanced by Averroes, who with Avicenna is considered one of the two most important Islamic philosophers in history.

In an attempt to navigate between faith and rationality, Averroes argued that what may be true in the realm of religion may be contrary to what is true in nature. Thus, the Quranic maxim, "there is no compulsion in religion," (Sura 2:256) can be entirely true from a religious sense; but in the real world and in the course of jihad, compulsion may not only be required, but entirely justifiable. The dual-truth theory was vigorously rejected by Aquinas, and eventually both Roman Catholic, and later, Protestant theology acknowledged both the authoritative nature and the necessary agreement between special revelation (Scripture) and general revelation (nature).

Aquinas also refuted Averroes on his denial of the personal element to the human soul in the classic treatise, De Unitate Intellectus Contra Averroistas. The implication of Averroes' belief was an ultimate denial of the individual and the rejection of personal immortality - an inseparable component to historic Christian theology.

Neoplatonism and its associated ideas were also commonplace to Islamic philosophy, particularly the recurrent eternal cycles of history (Ibn Khaldun), which stands opposed to the linear view of history that is integral to the development of modern science. But science and rationalism were not the only victims of the problems of Islamic philosophy: free will and ethics also became targets. Islamic occasionalism led to fatalism and ethical positivism, as articulated in recent centuries by Muhammad as-Sanusi (b. 1780):

It is impossible for the Most High to determine an act as obligatory or forbidden... for the sake of any objective, since all acts are equal in that they are his creation and production. Therefore the specification of certain acts as obligatory and others as forbidden or with any other determination takes place by his pure choice, which has no cause. Intelligibility has no place at all in it rather it can be known only by revealed-law sharīa. (quoted in Joseph Kenny, Islamic Monotheism: Principles and Consequences)

Again, this is standard Ash'arite doctrine, which is the predominant view of Sunni Islam, not an obscure element within Muslim thought. Because there are no objective standards of good or evil, even with Allah, the only resort to maintain ethics is shari'a; and as-Sanusi makes clear, there is no role at all for rationality in ethics. Ibn Taymiyya (1263-1328), the favorite medieval theologian of Wahhabis and jihadists alike, contended that there was no role or ability for man to understand Allah; man's sole response was to obey shari'a, making any use of rational faculties irrelevant (see Reilly's article on this point). This is why the reinstitution of shari'a is so critical to the current Islamist project - there are no other alternatives except a complete reconstruction of Islam itself.

Tariq Ramadan is well aware of these problems within Islamic philosophy, as evidenced by his vocal appeals to reopen the "doors of ijtihad" to allow for new interpretations of Islam to escape the irrationalism of the principal ancient schools of belief. But instead of acknowledging those problems and ignoring the insurmountable philosophical obstacles posed by his own Islamic tradition, Ramadan shamelessly attempts to claim for Islamic traditions a commonality with the fruits of Western rationality.

Rather than focus on differences, the true dialogue between the Pope and Islam, and between secularized societies and Islamic ones, should emphasize our common, universal values: mutual respect of human rights, basic freedoms, rule of law and democracy.

The reality is that none of these values - human rights, basic freedoms, rule of law, or democracy - actually exists anywhere in the Muslim world (even in "secular" Turkey) to the degree that they are practiced in or are recognizable to the West, nor are they identifiable in the 1,400 years of Islamic history. (In subsequent essays I hope to show that Islamic theology itself negates these very concepts, making any rapprochement between Islam and Western values impossible without abandoning the most basic tenets of Islam itself.)

As Robert Reilly notes in his article, this acknowledgement of the intrinsic problems of Islamic theology and its incompatibility with Western values is not just a view exclusive to just infidels, but honest Muslim intellectuals as well. He quotes the Iranian thinker Abdolkarim Soroush, who admits:

Some of the understandings that exist in our society today of the Imams . . . or even of the concept of God are not particularly compatible with an accountable state and do not allow society to grow and develop in the modern-day sense.

If Tariq Ramadan is really serious about a dialogue between Islam and the West and cultivating Western values amongst Muslims (and there is some reason to believe that he isn't serious), it must not only be open, but honest as well. Relying on an invented and purely mythological Islamic history and ignoring the problems of Islamic philosophy are not the place for Muslims to initiate the dialogue. Pope Benedict's starting point is clearly much better.

Patrick Poole is an occasional contributor to American Thinker. He maintains a blog, Existential Space.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cult; islam; islamicphilosophy; islamofascist; rationality
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To: XenaLee
I believe in Biblical prophecy, have studied God's word for more than twenty five years, what you wrote is not only wrong, it's unbibicial and unsound.

We are not powerless as Christians, no man but the Father knows when the end times will unfold.

Do you suppose we sit back and let Islam take over the world while we wait for the return of the Lord, living on faith while we endure?

The world is our field, white is the harvest.

21 posted on 12/01/2006 5:19:45 AM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
Not quite.
You ARE essentially correct, however. Islam and it's adherents will settle for having the West as a worker/slave class (Dhimmi)religiously, socially, economically and military subjugated and debased.

Those who resist the Islamo-Borg entre, are for the scimitar's edge.

The obvious answer is two fold. Confrontation at all levels and war when possible. With short breaks in the war for retooling and refurbishment and back to an assault to the death on their philosophy, style and religious philosophy, as well as their centers of commerce, fuel, personnel emplacements and other areas upon which attack may render Islam as useless as it's hollow promise.
Nothing succeeds like killing your enemies in great numbers, so that their mothers cry out at the sight of their dead children. It works for them, I believe the West can be better at it.
The second effort should be a massive attack by ANY means upon the centers of interest, with total destruction of those centers, i.e., Mecca, Medina, and every Islamic center deemed Holy. Flattened after the first attempt to visit a redux, a la 9/11, against the US.(I assume that the UK and Europe have opted out of the war).
22 posted on 12/01/2006 5:20:12 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Kenya AA and enjoying his Stan Getz CD's".)
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I remember an argument I had with some islamic guy who mentioned a muslim scientist/mathematician's who measured the circumference of the earth to a good accuracy as an example of Islams great achievements. His mouth closed very quickly after I mentioned that a Greek had originated that experiment in its method and result more than a thousand years earlier.

Many if the achievements that the moslems claim, they inherited from the people they had conquered (Persian Egyptians etc...)


they write sites like this
http://www.arabji.com/ArabEdu/Edu3.htm

The Zero was actually developed long before in India/Babylon/Greece and the Moslems appropriated it (for example)

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/history/HistTopics/Zero.html
23 posted on 12/01/2006 5:26:37 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: Fzob
...simply continue to erode rational thought to the point of no return.

The last election proves your point quite well.

Even with the general population obviously concerned about what exactly is going on in Iraq, to vote in a democratic congress with essential no ideas states or principled positions taken, besides Bush is a war criminal and he doesn't speak well, is pretty much irrational

24 posted on 12/01/2006 5:26:38 AM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Caesar Soze

Why waste your time reading Armstrong. She is congenitally incapable of actually asserting anything.
Read Spencer or Emerson for a serious treatment of Islam.


25 posted on 12/01/2006 5:27:22 AM PST by Bainbridge
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To: Caesar Soze

Islam does not have a "civilization".
They have property that they control.That term (property) includes land as well as people.


26 posted on 12/01/2006 5:29:19 AM PST by Bainbridge
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To: Northern Alliance

One thing I like about the Bible is that even if you don't believe it is the divinely inspired Word of God you can still find wonderful stories and great wisdom in its pages. Personally, I believe it's the Word of God.

One of its pearls of wisdom is when Jesus told his disciples that you know a tree by it fruit. Pretty simple, huh? You can put a sign on a grapevine identifying it as a naval orange tree and people who don't know different will believe you. But once that vine bears fruit there is little doubt as to what kind of plant you're dealing with. The Islamic tree is bearing fruit, and I don't see any evidence of the fruit of the tree being peace. The fruit it bears is an anathema to every principle I believe is taught in the Bible.

If they want to consider their tree to be a Peace Tree then they are going to have to show me some Peace fruit from the tree. What I am seeing all over the world right now, being done in the name of their Peace Tree is anything but.


27 posted on 12/01/2006 5:40:28 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: Northern Alliance

save


28 posted on 12/01/2006 5:40:31 AM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Northern Alliance

good article


29 posted on 12/01/2006 6:10:06 AM PST by Cruz
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To: Northern Alliance

good article


30 posted on 12/01/2006 6:10:13 AM PST by Cruz
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To: Northern Alliance
I had made similar observations here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1712730/posts

Averroes 'dual truth' doctrine is indeed part of the foundations of European culture: it is adhered to by all the secularists who regard religion or 'spirituality' as a private sphere where relativist notions like 'your truth' apply, while science is taken as giving a different notion of truth. It, at least, unlike al-Ghazali's occasionalism didn't kill off the possibility of empirical science.

I'm suprised Ramadan had the timerity to include al-Ghazali in his recitation. The lunatic Palestinian sheik I was critiquing in the second part of the linked piece, at least had the wit to only invoke Avicenna and Averroes in his attempt to claim rationality for Islam.

31 posted on 12/01/2006 6:20:56 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: jwparkerjr

Very well put...and completely true.
I'm thinking "you reap what you sow" is pretty applicable too.


32 posted on 12/01/2006 6:23:13 AM PST by carolw
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To: Popman

So you have forgotten or never known about the defense of Europe on the East by the Orthodox? Or are you one of those Latins who claims that we're you, just naughty schismatics, but really part of your church anyway?

Without St. Lazar and those who died with him on the field of Kosovo, Europe would have been overrun in the 14th century. Without Vlad Tepec, in the 16th.

And other Eastern Christians have taken a hand in opposing Islam: Copts are very confrontational to this day, despite their homeland having been overrun, and the iconclast Leo the Isaurian turned back the tide in East the 8th century, even as Charles Martel did in the West.


33 posted on 12/01/2006 6:30:42 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The media never misses an opportunity to tell us that the Pope offended, that the Pope said something bad, that he should apologize, bla bla bla. The media have an agenda and they are very willing to lie in order to make things fit into their agenda.


34 posted on 12/01/2006 7:00:11 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (The media: 100% dedicated to the promotion of leftist and jihadist goals)
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To: The_Reader_David
Take the blue pill.

The closest I got to be a "Latin" was in high school foreign language class

Sorry, I left off the contribution of the Orthodox Church to in turning back the tide of Mo and his madman. My bad.

You have corrected my post quite well.

35 posted on 12/01/2006 7:01:22 AM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Northern Alliance

I agree. Based upon that article, I spent some time at that site. It's now bookmarked.


36 posted on 12/01/2006 7:02:23 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Conservative have so many principles that they won't even vote for themselves.)
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To: Man50D

What twisted thinking those animals are taken in by.


37 posted on 12/01/2006 7:08:22 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Northern Alliance

Where Islam failed was in not having either a Renaissance nor an Enlightenment. Those two events moved western religious and political thought away from the dogmatism of the Medieval period and advanced the idea of individual liberty.


38 posted on 12/01/2006 9:10:13 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Northern Alliance
Occasionalism is the belief that in the natural world, what is perceived as cause and effect between objects is mere appearance, not reality. Instead, only Allah truly acts with real effect; all seemingly natural observances of causation are merely manifestations of Allah's habits, for Allah simultaneously creates both the cause and the effect according to his arbitrary will.

When Alice fell down the rabbithole & entered Wonderland was she actually in Mecca?

39 posted on 12/01/2006 9:23:30 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: The_Reader_David
Averroes 'dual truth' doctrine is indeed part of the foundations of European culture

It seems to me that Kant's philosophy is much more responsible for the 'dual truth' doctrine in Europe than is Averroes. The Catholic scholastics rejected the 'dual truth' doctrine of Averroes.

-A8

40 posted on 12/01/2006 4:03:59 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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