Posted on 11/30/2006 1:11:26 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
Control the influx of workers; it's been done before, it can be done again.
Yes they did.
"...Lee and Miller estimate that the country would need to admit an additional 5 million immigrants per year, quintupling the current level of immigration, in order to achieve long-term balance in the Social Security trust fund. A recent report from the United Nations Population Division reached a similar conclusion for European countries, announcing that even much larger migration flows than are currently permitted would not counterbalance the effects of population aging.""To maintain the 2000 ratio between the working-age population (people between the ages of 20 and 64) and the older population (people ages 65 and older), the United States would need roughly 95 million more working-age persons in 2025, in addition to those already expected at current levels of immigration. In other words, if the entire working-age population of Mexico were to move to the United States in 2025, there still would not be enough people to restore the old-age dependency ratio of 2000." -- Source
If we have to repopulate via immigration, I'd rather see people come from South America than from Muslim countries, as is the case with Europe.
Control the influx of workers; it's been done before, it can be done again.
When was it done before? When Mexico had a strong aggie base? These guys aren't coming across for kicks, they're coming across as a matter of survival.
Did you not read #33?
Things haven't changed that much in Mexico since the Bracero program ended.
You understand what Tom is all about, congrats
This year, Tom plans to write a letter to Santa and ask him for a 2,000 mile long fence.
A far greater threat to this country than immigrants -- which nobody likes to talk about -- is the depopulation of its rural areas.
Things haven't changed that much in Mexico since the Bracero program ended.
Things have changed a lot in just the last 10 years. I personally know guys who have walked away from entire factories in Mexico in favor of contractors in China. Think about that -- these guys spent the time and effort and money to construct actual buildings, buy equipment, desks, phones, etc. etc. and basically sold what they could and pulled out.
check out post #209 and a Great book, "The True Believer" by Eric Hoffer. Tommy is playing you and lots of others, laughing all the way to the bank.
By the way, please define what you mean by the term amnesty? Also, if you get what you want, what do you think would be the impact on the economy? Would you allow temporary workers?
Tancredo doesn't have a chance in hell of being POTUS.
Tancredo doesn't have a chance in hell of being POTUS.
Also check out post #236
One of the reasons I don`t think Tancredo is helpful is that he is selling simple solutions that ignore history and reality.
Thanks for the giggle, Luis. :-)
Where was Tom? Railing against them. The funny thing is that Jeb Bush doesn't feel the need to defend Colorado cities, for some reason.
Yours is an excellent post.
We can't change Mexico, the only thing we can do is control the inevitable.
A wall won't stop them from coming, they'll go over it, under it, or through it. They will also come by boat.
If you control the border via a legal entry program for temp workers, then at least you'll be stopping LESS people trying to enter illegally.
And with the predicted labor shortage that's GOING TO HAPPEN in the coming two decades due to the combination of the accelerated retirement of the baby boomers and the 30 million+ abortions performed since the Bracero program was ended, we will need those workers.
How's that been working out for him?
Let's see, almost twice the illegal aliens per capita than Florida has...railing is not working for Tom.
"The funny thing is that Jeb Bush doesn't feel the need to defend Colorado cities, for some reason."
Because he was elected to take care of this State and not to concern himself with a State that someone else was elected to care for, and according to the numbers of illegal aliens per capita, he's doing a better job here than Tom is doing in his State.
Perhaps, Tom's just trying to take attention away from his own ineptness.
I don't have an opinion one way or the other about Tancredo. He does have an ability to put his foot in his mouth, but he does raise some legitimate concerns. Discussion about limits to immigration isn't off limits in a free republic.
I'd have to agree with those who say that you can't simply throw open the doors to everyone who wants to come here. If you do, you'd probably have more problems with terrorism, not less. And a lot of Americans who pay taxes and contribute to the economy would be hurt.
But your premise is wrong. Don't you know how to do a web search? Look up "Tancredo" and "Canada." You'll find things like this interview with Tancredo in the Toronto Star:
As Tancredo said in an interview with the Toronto Star yesterday, once you seal off your southern flank, your problem becomes your northern flank.
"Right now, we have a problem," he said. "We all know the northern border is porous. People can come through it at their whim." In effect, Canadian "problems" become American "problems" through geographical proximity, he believes.
"If you have an unsecured border, then the policies of your neighbours become yours," he said. "You have a very liberal refugee policy which makes it easy for people to come, especially from the Middle East. As a result it is easy for them to enter into the United States."
You can admire Tancredo or despise him or be indifferent to him, but at least take the time to find out the truth.
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