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(Jeb) Bush answers Coloradan's Miami gibes: 'What a nut'
Palm Beach Post ^ | Nov 30, 2006 | Larry Lipman

Posted on 11/30/2006 1:11:26 PM PST by wouldntbprudent

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To: King of Florida

"They are gullible, ignorant fools who swallow hook, line and sinker any piece of blatantly untrue garbage thrown out there. Sheesh."

You can take your personal attacks and go pound salt with them.


221 posted on 12/01/2006 5:15:15 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: Kimberly GG

I did not say "you." I said those who support Tancredo. If you happen to number among those pitifully ignorant souls, you have my sympathies.


222 posted on 12/01/2006 5:59:26 PM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Stultis

Great post.

To add my meager two cents, some seem to think that you can stop the river of humanity crossing our borders illegally with a fence...you can't control a river with a fence, but you can with a dam.

Bring back the Bracero program and you're 95% of the way to controlling the borders.


223 posted on 12/01/2006 6:39:32 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: King of Florida

"I did not say "you." I said those who support Tancredo. If you happen to number among those pitifully ignorant souls, you have my sympathies."

I'm sure I do. In fact, when you get done attacking us, be sure to go pray for all us 'one issue' freepers. There's a thread for jekyll and hydes around here somewhere.


224 posted on 12/01/2006 6:41:18 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: Kimberly GG
"The borders should have been effectively secure on 9/12."

Over 4 million people have been stopped from entering the country illegally at the borders since President Bush took office.

If that's not securing the borders, what is?

225 posted on 12/01/2006 6:41:28 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Kimberly GG
"The borders should have been effectively secure on 9/12."

Over 4 million people have been stopped from entering the country illegally at the borders since President Bush took office.

If that's not securing the borders, what is?

226 posted on 12/01/2006 6:41:30 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Bracero won't work. Too many want to come across.


227 posted on 12/01/2006 6:42:38 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

I'm sure that Jeb's wife is happy that he called Tancredo a 'nut'........ What nationality is she, German???????


228 posted on 12/01/2006 6:46:58 PM PST by ErieGeno
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"Over 4 million people have been stopped from entering the country illegally at the borders since President Bush took office."

Woopdedoo...and how many MORE have crossed illegally during that time? Or is that not a stat you keep handy?

"If that's not securing the borders, what is?"

You're joking, right?


229 posted on 12/01/2006 6:50:29 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: ErieGeno

"I'm sure that Jeb's wife is happy that he called Tancredo a 'nut'........ What nationality is she, German???????"
Jeb's wife is an American citizen.


230 posted on 12/01/2006 6:55:44 PM PST by jamese777
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To: ErieGeno

I'm sure that Jeb's wife is happy that he called Tancredo a 'nut'........ What nationality is she, German???????






Wow! So it's come to this...


231 posted on 12/01/2006 6:58:09 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Kimberly GG
"Woopdedoo...and how many MORE have crossed illegally during that time? Or is that not a stat you keep handy?"

Mmmm...

OK, you tell ME how many people we DIDN'T see enter the country.

232 posted on 12/01/2006 8:00:30 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: durasell
While the Bracero program was in place, we had no illegal alien population to speak of.

"The Bracero program was a response to an immigration crisis that peaked in 1954 when arrests of illegal aliens topped the one million mark. Under the Bracero program, some 300,000 Mexican workers entered the U.S. legally every year. The results were dramatic. By 1959 arrests of illegal aliens had fallen to 45,000 a year; they remained under 100,000 until 1964.

But the Bracero program fell victim to opposition from labor union leaders who viewed the program as competition for their members. In 1964 they convinced President Lyndon Johnson to end the program. With its demise the problem of illegal immigration returned. By 1976, apprehensions were up to 876,000. They have increased most years since then, reaching the current level of 1.2 million annual arrests.

Opinion Journal

What we're doing isn't working, because Johnson "fixed" something that wasn't broken.

From the same article, to add perspective:

Those who believe an enforcement-only approach to the flow of illegal aliens--the basic approach of the House-passed bill--is sufficient should recall that in 1969 President Richard Nixon visited the Mexican border to declare a "zero tolerance" policy on drug smuggling. Operation Intercept deployed thousands of additional Border Patrol, Customs Service and Immigration and Naturalization Service agents along the 2,000-mile border and subjected every passenger and cargo vehicle to a thorough search, creating a nightmare for millions of legal commuters and truck drivers. The unworkable program was soon moderated, but the resources were shifted to Nixon's vaunted "War on Drugs." For the past 37 years, billions have been spent to halt the flow of drug trafficking. Anyone who thinks the program has been successful in stopping the flow is likely under the influence of one of the substances Nixon was trying to stop.

The Bracero program is the dam I spoke of.

233 posted on 12/01/2006 8:07:58 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Well done Luis and I concur, 100%, on what you said about Tancredo!


234 posted on 12/01/2006 8:15:56 PM PST by nopardons
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To: NapkinUser
Oh big whooooooooooop. LOL

Terrible Tom wrote two whole letters to the mayor of Denver. I'm just soooooooooooooooooooooo impressed by his fortitude...............................NOT!

235 posted on 12/01/2006 8:18:10 PM PST by nopardons
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To: bybybill

http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110008697


236 posted on 12/01/2006 8:21:20 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

BRAVO!


237 posted on 12/01/2006 8:22:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: durasell

The U.S. government has forecast a shortage of 20 million workers by 2026; trying to stop a job hungry population out of a labor-hungry country is going to be a losing proposition.


238 posted on 12/01/2006 8:29:24 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez; All

Well you can thank the unions for ending the Bracero program....


239 posted on 12/01/2006 8:31:52 PM PST by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Mexico got its lunch eaten by China. I'll say what nobody else will say on these immigration threads (which I believe to be true):

A)There is no stopping the influx of illegal workers. The border is too big and the need to great across too great.

B)The one thing worse than having Mexico as a neighborhood leaking illegals into the country is having an unstable Mexico as a neighbor on the brink of economic collapse.


240 posted on 12/01/2006 8:33:36 PM PST by durasell (!)
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