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Muslim law reaches Britain
Daily Exress (UK) ^ | 11/30/2006 | David Pilditch

Posted on 11/30/2006 6:17:10 AM PST by Dark Skies

SECRET courts imposing draconian Islamic justice are operating across Britain.

Last night politicians and religious leaders expressed outrage that sharia law is gaining an increasing foothold in our society.

The hardline Islamic law allows people to be stoned to death, beheaded or have their limbs amputated.

Critics insisted Labour was allowing a chaotic two-tier legal system to flourish in the name of political correctness.

And legal experts warned that it meant the authority of British justice was being undermined. Sharia law dates back to the 10th century.

In some countries women are stoned to death for adultery or giving birth out of wedlock and thieves can have both arms amputated.

In Saudi Arabia, murderers, rapists and drug traffickers are publicly beheaded with a sword. The Islamic law also deals in all aspects of daily life including marriage and divorce.

Yesterday experts insisted the Government had already allowed elements of sharia law to be introduced. The Treasury has brought in measures including interest-free loans and mortgages which comply with the Islamic law.

But it was also alleged unofficial criminal courts are meting out their own justice.

The scandal was outlined on BBC Radio 4’s Law in Action programme which uncovered evidence that Muslims are using their own laws here.

Youth worker Aydarus Yusuf, 29, told how he helped convene an unofficial court which uses Somalian law.

He said a hearing was held in Woolwich, South-east London, after a group of youths were arrested on suspicion of attacking another Somali teenager.

The victim’s family told police the matter would be settled out of court and the suspects were freed on bail.

The trial was conducted by community elders who ordered the attackers to pay compensation to the victim.

Mr Yusuf said: “The accused men admitted their guilt and apologised. All their uncles and fathers were there. They agreed compensation.”

He insisted he is more bound by the law of his country of birth than British justice, adding: “Somalis, wherever we live in the world, have our own law.”

The strength of sharia law was the strict punishments. Assailants were unlikely to re-offend as it would bring shame on their families, he said.

A Scotland Yard source said it was common for the police not to proceed with assault cases if victims did not press charges.

Dr Patrick Sookhdeo of the Institute for the Study of Islam and Christianity said: “Sharia courts now operate in most larger cities, with different sectarian and ethnic groups operating their own courts that cater to their specific needs according to their tradition.

“The Government has not been straight about this. It has it’s own sharia advisers and it has already introduced measures that are compliant with sharia law.

"Muslim communities are creating their own infrastructure based on sharia law. A Muslim community can now function within its own society on every level.”

The Tory spokesman for homeland security Patrick Mercer said: “This is complete nonsense. If you want to live under sharia law you should go to a country where it holds sway.”

Muslim and Christian groups were also outraged.

The Rev Keith Osmund-Smith, from the Heart of England Baptist Association, said: “It is almost like a stealthy change in the law and I’m very very much against it.”

Dr Mohammed Naseem, chairman of Birmingham Central Mosque, said: “Sharia law states that you respect the law of the land and therefore it cannot be enforced in this country.”

Faisal Aqtab Siddiqi, head of the Hijaz College Islamic University in Nuneaton, Warwickshire, said: “We no longer have the bobby on the beat who will give somebody a slap on the wrist.

“So I think there is a case to be made under which the elders sit together and reprimand people, trying to get them to change.”

Some academic lawyers welcome alternative legal systems.

Dr Prakesh Shah, law lecturer at Queen Mary, University of London, said: “Tribunals like the Somali court could be more effective than the formal legal system in maintaining social harmony.”

A spokeswoman for the Department for Communities and Local Government said: “Sharia law will not be introduced to the whole or any part of the UK. We are absolutely clear that existing British law applies to everyone.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: britain; islam; muslim; muslimlaw; sharia; uk
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To: popdonnelly
Pop, you're behind the curve on this one.

The State Department, in an unholy alliance with none other than Catholic Charities(!) and the INS, has been settling MANY thousands of Somali families around the country.

They (and the Somali Elders) look for the best Social Services/ Welfare/Assistance Package and drop'em off for the locals to contend with. The Lewiston-Auburn area in Maine is one such drop. These are refugee tribesmen from the Southern area that borders Kenya, which most emphatically has no need for border-raider tribes who have made their living for generations as bandits and camel, cattle, and goat rustlers.

I must admit there was definitely a shortage of Americans willing to do this work in Maine.

If your state needs a few, let us know, we can arrange it. They are a law-enforcement problem, with endemic domestic violence and the by-now, well known Muslim female ritual mutilation practices. They are also all'round PIAs.

Marvelous government idea, dropping equatorial Muslim bandits in the middle of Maine. Thank you, o thank you, Catholic Charities for facilitating.

21 posted on 11/30/2006 11:46:50 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Let us all gather together on the lawn to bid Karl Rove a fond, "¡ Adiós, amigo !")
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To: Dark Skies; snugs; MadIvan; All

OH SNUGS and Ivan I think Sharia law is there


22 posted on 11/30/2006 3:37:21 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Dark Skies

Looking at this from a purely Machievellian viewpoint, the Islamic people are brilliant in their strategy of subverting the larger culture around them. Establishing little centers of Islam inside the larger culture is like the creation of a guerilla army which, perhaps, one day, will gain enough territory or population strength to openly challenge the original inhabitants of the territory. They manage to maintain cultural allegience and solidarity, too, with their own people. Since the Islamic people also remain largely unseen in this stage of the subversion, they can also quietly obtain power and position. Simply brilliant. Speaking for myself, it scares the crap out of me.


23 posted on 11/30/2006 4:17:22 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: Dark Skies

bump for later read


24 posted on 11/30/2006 4:29:12 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: redpoll

This is what happens when, under the misguided notions of "tolerance" and "diversity," immigrants do not experience significant pressure to assimilate. Even the US will have issues, as we also have greatly relaxed assimilation pressure over the past 50 or so years. From melting pots to balkanized messes. Liberalism is a mental disorder.


25 posted on 11/30/2006 6:42:39 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: redpoll

Scares the crap out of me too. I live in Michigan in a small farm town and just recently discovered an Islamic Center not 17 miles away. Of course, there is a huge mosque and center in Dearborn which now plays call-to-prayer 5 times a day. But why not the township commission most likely is Muslim as most others have left the area. These folks are working very quietly while infiltrating communities and schools, but make no mistake, they are working hard to seek local positions and change local areas to suit their needs. The obtained local positions will be used to promote their "way of life" (via their PR scheme) to implement their ways upon us and ultimately to convert all infidels. It is absolutely scary!!


26 posted on 11/30/2006 7:07:46 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: GOP_1900AD

I think burkas should be illegal. Their faces are hidden and there is no way to identify them--they all look alike. You do not know who is under the burka, male or female, nor are the cameras that are all over America (for our protection) able to help if a crime is committed. Finally, I agree with those on this site that believe the reference should be changed to CULT. All good and bad are in this game. You can bet the good will obey the bad when they are "made a deal they can't refuse." We are simply allowing the numbers to grow in our own country. Shame on us.


27 posted on 11/30/2006 7:13:10 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Snoopers-868th
You need to be afraid - VERY afraid for your children and their children.


28 posted on 11/30/2006 7:36:26 PM PST by Two Pocket Shirt ( Do not be confused. Islam IS terror.)
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To: Dark Skies

If this is true - it is upsetting.


29 posted on 11/30/2006 7:44:21 PM PST by Sunsong
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