Posted on 11/29/2006 9:42:37 PM PST by kellynla
The six imams removed from a US Airways flight last week have apparently adopted my suggestion that if they really want to protest the airline, instead of boycotting US Airways, they should start flying it frequently.
The spokesman for the imams -- or as I believe it's phrased in their culture, "designated liar" -- Omar Shahin, staged a protest at Reagan Washington National Airport on Monday, after which, according to the Associated Press, "he and other religious leaders boarded a US Airways flight to demonstrate their determination to continue praying and flying."
The original six imams removed from the flight last week first attracted attention when they said prayers to Allah on traditional Muslim prayer rugs in the boarding area. After boarding, they changed seats, spreading themselves throughout the plane. They were also overheard spouting anti-American rhetoric. Witnesses said the six men appeared to be either Islamic fanatics or U.S. Army chaplains on leave from Guantanamo.
Following the lead of FEMA in keeping Americans safe, the Homeland Security Department's Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties is investigating the removal of the imams from the US Airways flight. (Talk about coincidences -- I'm currently investigating the removal of the Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties from the Department of Homeland Security!)
Imam spokesman Shahin is a great example of why airport security ought to be profiling Arabs. Shahin's predecessor at the Islamic Center in Tucson was Osama bin Laden's financier and head of logistics -- until he was arrested in Saudi Arabia in 2002.
Instead of aggressively distinguishing himself from his terrorist predecessor, judging by news reports, Shahin spent the five years after 9/11 denying that Muslims were behind the attacks and complaining of phony anti-Islamic "hate crimes" -- as opposed to the pro-Islamic hate crimes he presumably endorses.
In 2003, for example, Shahin alleged that a woman in Arizona had thrown shoes at children at the mosque.
This is the most transparent hoax I've heard since, "If I did it, here's how I would have done it." This is like the joke about a speaker at an American communist rally opening with: "Workers and peasants of Brooklyn!" Shahin has so little insight into this country, he can't even invent a believable hate crime.
It's Arabs who have a thing about shoes being a sign of disrespect, not Americans. When Iraqis toppled the statue of Saddam Hussein, the crowd immediately pelted it with shoes. Saddam installed a mosaic of the first president Bush's face on the ground floor of his palace so that visitors would be forced to disrespect Bush by walking on his visage in their shoes.
Shahin himself couldn't get away from this pan-Arabic shoe fetish, adding: "The incidents of Muslims being attacked kind of shocked me in my shoes." Note to imams trying to fabricate hate crimes against Muslims: Americans don't share your shoe neurosis.
At Reagan National this week, Rabbis joined the Muslims at the prayer protest -- though one imagines they did not share this prayer from the Hadith: "And the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'" In fairness, they usually save that one for the high holidays, like the "Festival of the Six Dead Jews" or "Honor Killing Week."
Nor this one, also from the Hadith: "The Prophet said: 'The Hour will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them. The Muslims will kill the Jews. Rejoice! Rejoice in Allah's victory!'" (Is it just me, or might some fanatic twist those words into an excuse to kill Jews?)
Also strange was that the NAACP has piped in to complain about racial profiling of Muslims. The only reason Americans feel guilty about "racial profiling" against blacks is because of the history of discrimination against blacks in this country.
What did we do to the Arabs? I believe Americans are the victims in that relationship. After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.
And what would you base you educated guess on?
Yeah, and if KKK members wore their hoods and robes 24X7 then it'd be a breeze to profile them, too. But Coulter says to profile Muslima and I'm wondering how to do that if they aren't blatent enough to pray loudly in the airport. How would you do it?
Well that's an interesting point, if so. Do you think he's referring to Joe Six Pack AND Liberal Larry taking matters into their own hands on the mainland here? The government's response to that would be to make examples of the jingoistic American haters, imo.
well you might think it is an "educated guess" but if I were you I wouldn't go around posting that others' opinions are definitely wrong when you don't KNOW. LMAO
there are FReepers who have military intelligence background and access and who just might KNOW more than your "educated guess."
"The government's response to that would be to make examples of the jingoistic American haters, imo."
For sure, but I think another attack will be the last straw for a lot of Americans.
I would hope so, but I wouldn't want to see it result in lynchings or utter chaos. Just wholesale deportations.
Survivalists? ;)
Points taken.
Let me ask you a question:
What do you suggest we do? You know as well as I do that almost every terrorist act that has ever occured aside from McVeigh has been done by Arab Muslims. Doesn't that mean that we should suspect any of them traveling in large groups? If a large pack of wolves traveling around town mauled a child, wouldn't you leave rather quickly if you saw a wolf, or even a Siberian Husky that looked like one?
For the time being, I base it on ethnicity first and foremost. Choice of apparel is a often a factor. Behavior can be a factor. If I can't tell, there's little else I can do. But I make judgments all day long about many people and for various reasons. For instance, someone stole a bike, took it for a joyride, and dumped it across the street from my house a few days ago. I called the cops and they picked it up. If I watch for possible culprits, am I going to be looking for a man in a business suit, or for a bunch of teens walking down the street yelling profanities?
"If a large pack of wolves traveling around town mauled a child, wouldn't you leave rather quickly if you saw a wolf, or even a Siberian Husky that looked like one?"
If I was a wolf, I would go dark.
If I didn't, I would knowingly increase my risk factor by 10,000.
we are talkin' past each other.
I'm saying if they were thrown off the plane that they probably did it so they could file a discrimination lawsuit at worst; and you say their reasons were otherwise...
at this point, it doesn't matter...they're off the plane because AMERICANS ARE FED UP!
Now have a good day!
Ann bump! And please add me to your ping list.
I agree with you. My initial comment was a response to
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1746219/posts?page=39#39
I dont know what we should do. I don't know what the guy meant by one more terror attack and them brownies will get it though. There are plenty of blue eyed blond muslims out there AQ will use them. Should we listen in on mosques and monitor people sure. Should we round of all them brown skins non european people and boot em, your welcome to try. The armed citizens amognst them (like myself) wont be happy with it, to quote the dipset "bip bip bip was my reply"....
oooh...okay...my mistake! LOL
I agree.
Someone starts doing what those guys in Minneapolis did, then they're rightly suspect. I don't think we should "round up the brownies" or whatever that other guy said.
I can't be sure - we may never know, because no one cared - whether there were other Muslims on that very flight. They weren't hauled off, they were not involved in any scene.
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