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Home prices drop 17 percent [Florida]
Herald Tribune ^ | 11/29/2006 | Stephen Frater and Michael Pollick

Posted on 11/29/2006 6:44:22 PM PST by ex-Texan

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To: Alia
Bravo, expat_panama!

Thanks!

361 posted on 12/04/2006 3:36:17 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: VeniVidiVici
I get extremely tired of people whining how "discriminatory" the property tax system is. You want to save on property taxes in Florida? Don't move. You want to move to Florida and don't want to spend as much in taxes as the other guy who just moved to Florida? Buy a smaller house. Then don't move.

In a perfect world Florida would have stayed pristine and not gotten crowded. Well, the world isn't perfect. I lived there for over 40 years and I despised the results of rampant growth. I owned my home for 27 years, so I really got the benefit of the ridiculous property tax system.

But none of that makes it right or fair. The idea of the amendment originally was to protect *everybody* from the puntative growth of property taxes. And to [hopefully] limit the growth of state government by limiting its revenue.

Enter the law of unintended consequences.

Your attitude is no different than that of those who want to tax the wealthy to get even. We'll fix those nasty, greedy rich people.
Everyone should pay the same taxes and they ALL should be a heck of a lot less. Screwing these people isn't helping you at all. It's just giving the state of Florida more money to piss away.

362 posted on 12/04/2006 6:49:56 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Everyone should pay the same taxes and they ALL should be a heck of a lot less. Screwing these people isn't helping you at all. It's just giving the state of Florida more money to piss away.

Bull****. Go look at the property taxes of other states, especially the states without an income tax and tell me they are getting screwed. And I can practically guarantee you that the ones moving down from the NE are getting a veritable bargain on property taxes.

Sorry, it's only the whiners and the class warriors who are complaining the most.

363 posted on 12/05/2006 8:02:34 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's the one elected position Ted Kennedy has never held? Designated Driver.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Bull****. Go look at the property taxes of other states, especially the states without an income tax and tell me they are getting screwed. And I can practically guarantee you that the ones moving down from the NE are getting a veritable bargain on property taxes.

Sorry, it's only the whiners and the class warriors who are complaining the most.

Why is it right to charge taxes that are 2-4 times higher for people that buy homes than people that already own homes?

Your rational that the upper tier of this two tiered tax system is appropriate because these people were paying more in their previous state is completely without logical foundation. Two different homes that each have a market value of $200K should have the same property taxes. Your logic is that taxes should be assesed based on who owns the home.
Based on that thinking, any other criteria can be valid. For example, liberals are the cause of excessive government spending, thus the cause of higher taxes. Ipso facto, registered Democrats should pay 50% greater rate in property taxes than Republicans. So should smokers. Non Florida residents should pay 10% sales tax instead of 6%. How about higher electric rates? And so on ad nauseum.

This is nothing more than petty class warfare. Straight out of the liberal's playbook. Plain and simple it is "targeted taxes" for "payback".

People that expect equal treatment under the law are "whiners"?

364 posted on 12/05/2006 7:51:05 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

MB>BRAVO !</B>


365 posted on 12/05/2006 8:31:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: VeniVidiVici
No, they certainly are NOT; not of they came down to Florida from Ct.!

I suggest that you refrain from talking about something you obviously know nothing at all about.

366 posted on 12/05/2006 8:36:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Spot on!


367 posted on 12/05/2006 8:37:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: GodGunsGuts
Hi guys. I thought I'd ping you into this conversation. The point of contention is whether the Clinton/Greenspan changes to the CPI underestimate the same (and by how much). You both love to crunch numbers and dig up relevant charts, so I naturally thought of you.

I haven't run across any charts on the subject other than the one that you posted in post #253 above. However, I have run across some articles. They include The Core Rate at Financial Sense Online, Caution: Inflation is higher than you think at Asia Times Online, The Consumer Price Index at Shadow Government Statistics (the source of your chart), and Changes in Calculating the Consumer Price Indexes from a Congressional Budget document.

368 posted on 12/06/2006 12:29:30 AM PST by remember
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