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Home prices drop 17 percent [Florida]
Herald Tribune ^ | 11/29/2006 | Stephen Frater and Michael Pollick

Posted on 11/29/2006 6:44:22 PM PST by ex-Texan

Prices remain the story in home sales, with Sarasota-Bradenton prices falling 18 percent in October, the second biggest drop in the state.

The median sales price in the Sarasota-Bradenton market was $277,900 last month, compared with $340,700 during the same month in booming 2005.

The Charlotte County-North Port market was not far behind, with a drop of 17 percent, from $243,900 to $202,800.

Only Fort Myers-Cape Coral took a bigger fall, posting a 44 percent decline in median sales price, from $445,100 to $249,200, the Florida Association of Realtors reported on Tuesday.

The median is the point where half the homes sold for more and half for less.

Those numbers came against the backdrop of a national decline in sales price of 3.5 percent, to $221,000, the biggest year-over-year drop on record. It marked the third straight month that prices have fallen nationally, the longest stretch on record.

Home price have been declining in Sarasota-Bradenton since June.

Sellers are giving ground on prices, recognizing that in a local and national market flooded with listings, how much you ask for your home is one of the few ways to differentiate yourself from the competition.

"It's often a matter of educating the sellers that in order to move their property, they've got to give on the price," said Brandy Coffey of Sarasota's Good Life Realty.

Many buyers are well-acquainted with that fact.

After looking at about 40 homes in the $800,000 to $1 million range, Craig Aberle and his wife just landed a deal in a south Sarasota golf course community.

The house they are buying was on the market for about a year, and they were able to get it for 20 percent less than the sellers were asking a year ago.

"They wanted to move," said Aberle, who will close before the end of the year. "They were reluctant to take our offer, which was a strong offer, mostly cash. But we said, 'Look, this is all we are willing to spend, and there are several other houses.'

"You're in a position where, if you want to be aggressive, you can play the sellers off against each other."

Aberle took his own haircut earlier this year when he sold in New Jersey: "We sold for 10 percent less than it would have been in 2005."

Yetta Levitt knows exactly what she is doing as she attempts to market her own spacious waterfront home in the Nokomis subdivision of Sorrento Woods for $850,000.

It is on the Internet with pictures and arrows; Levitt is offering a bonus to the selling agent; she will provide a full mortgage with only 5 percent down.

The problem is there aren't many buyers floating around.

"All I can say is nothing in my neighborhood is moving," Levitt said, noting that one of the less expensive, nonwaterfront homes in her 210-home subdivision sold last month for $410,000. "Prior to that sale, I believe the last sale was November 2005."

The numbers released Tuesday back up Levitt's theme.

In the Sarasota-Bradenton market, 24 percent fewer homes sold this October than October 2005. Sales were virtually flat in Charlotte County-North Port: 226 compared with 225 in 2005.

The Florida Association of Realtors noted that Hurricane Wilma struck Southwest and South Florida during the last week of October 2005, and that the storm's disruption likely reduced the number of sales in many communities.

If activity had been normal, the drop in sales would have been even more pronounced.

Sales nationally edged up 0.5 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 6.24 million in October. It was the first monthly increase after seven consecutive months of declines.

Meanwhile, Florida's total sales dropped 22 percent, from 16,407 in October 2005 to 12,773 last month.

'About right'

Some Realtors said the price drop during October is what is to be expected in a market where listings have multiplied from the heady days of the real estate market of the last three years, a time when homes moved in a matter of days.

Pricing in 2005 represented historic highs for the region, said Tom Heatherman, a spokesman for Michael Saunders & Co.

"We have experienced some double digit declines, but we are backing off what were historic increases over the previous years," Heatherman said.

Chad Roffers, president of Sarasota-based Sky Sotheby's Realty, said the price decline goes hand in hand with slowing sales.

"An 18 percent decrease feels about right. We're seeing unit sales down by a third across the board and prices off by 20 percent from the peak in mid-2005," said Chad Roffers, president of Sarasota-based Sky Sotheby's.

"We are seeing a 'liquidity point' at values similar to those that existed in the fourth quarter of 2004. Those sellers who accept that level of value are seeing action. Those who hold out for 2005 prices are not."

Budge Huskey, president and chief operating officer of Coldwell Banker Residential Real Estate, agreed.

"These results should not come as a surprise. Price is a function of inventory levels, which have risen across the board," Huskey said, adding that "in some areas we're starting to see inventory levels stabilize or flatten out, although we're not at a point where we've reached equilibrium."

Huskey said pricing is the key: "Aggressive pricing and positioning are important right now for sellers."

He is not convinced that prices are done declining. "Sell now; you may get less in three months than today."

Coldwell Banker has closed 15 of the Florida offices that Huskey oversees from Sarasota, bringing the total to about 160. Real estate agents working for the company, meanwhile, total about 6,800, down 5.5 percent from 7,200 last year.

Homes were not the only part of the housing sector taking a hit in October.

Sales of condominiums in the Sarasota-Bradenton market were off 51 percent from the same time a year ago. The median sales price dropped 27 percent, from $294,000 to $216,000.

"Condos always go belly up when economy gets sluggish," said Barbara Anson of Manatee County's Wagner Realty.

Charlotte County-North Port saw a 24 percent drop in sales, but pricing in the market, which has few condos to offer, was difficult to use as any accurate gauge.

Anson said the 18 percent drop in home prices during October "was caused by homes in the region being overpriced," and she said the same is true across other classes of property.

"We now have to come back to reality," she said. "I am explaining to my sellers in Myakka that the bubble has busted. They're not going to get $350,000-$400,000 for a 10-acre parcel like they used to. They'll get $200,000."

Anson is seeing a lot of "half-backs," people who have moved halfway back north to places like Georgia, the Carolinas and Tennessee, where lower-priced housing is more readily available.

"We've priced ourselves out of the market and it'll take at least a year to get it corrected," she said. "I tell my clients, 'Don't think some Yankee will come down here and buy your property just because it's in Florida.'"

Chuck Edwards and his wife, a pair of those halfbacks, have been wheeling and dealing in Sarasota residential property for 13 years.

They decided last year to cash in their chips and move to coastal South Carolina.

Edwards still has eight Sarasota-Bradenton properties that he wants to sell.

He has been trying to sell 2408 Riverbluff Parkway for more than a year.

At first, he asked for $305,900 on this 55-and-older community home with boat docks available to owners. Now the price is $285,000 as a straight sale.

"We bought it right at the tail end of when the market was going crazy, where all you had to do was put a little two-by-five sign out there and somebody would buy it right away," Edwards said.

To make his Riverbluff Parkway house more palatable in today's tough market, Edwards is also making it available at a higher price of $289,500 for those who want to lease with an option to buy within a year.

"We are offering a lease option for it and any property we have, except for the personal house.

"I need to cash out of that."


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To: nopardons

Did you know that Gigi can also be referenced as 0TGigi?



That means "zero trick" as in "zero trick pony." He's not clever enough to have a trick, only to spout goldbuggerous platitudes.


301 posted on 12/03/2006 10:09:18 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Torie

==Yes, if bonds increase in price, as their yields drop to 2%, even thought the CPI understates inflation by 3%, and therefore the real rate on bonds drops to negative 5%, per annum, then yes, bonds will make you money, as the mad math becomes ever more mad.

BTW, I'm not interested in bonds. But given what you said above, would you agree with the following?

"The discriminating speculator engages in the yen-carry trade, that is, arbitrage from the yen bond market to the dollar bond market. He borrows yens at 1 percent, exchanges them for dollars to buy US bonds yielding 5. The purpose of the exercise is to drive up the price of dollar-bonds to the unheard-of heights of yen-bonds. Note the double-whammy. In addition to the unearned income of 4 percent the speculator will pocket huge capital gains after bond prices appreciate. Better still, the rising yen turns the double-whammy into a triple-whammy. The falling dollar makes the terms of trade for the speculator improve. He can now control a larger slice of the nicely appreciating bond-pie per unit of borrowed capital than before. True, he will have a loss on the short leg of the trade, namely, loss due to the rising exchange rate. In percentage terms this loss is in the order of one-digit. He reckons with that. But profits on the long leg, the portfolio of dollar-bonds, are in the order of triple-digit. With these odds, why should he care about losses on the short leg?"


302 posted on 12/03/2006 10:11:40 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: nopardons

So you admit that the vast majority of my posts DO NOT COME FROM GOLD SITES. But no apology. Not surprising.


303 posted on 12/03/2006 10:13:03 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Petronski
Yeah, yeah, he always buys low and sells high, but never ever with his own money and on at least 5% margin. *snort"

I'm still waiting to hear his detailed explanations of how the BOND MARKET and traders actually work. hehehehehehehehe

304 posted on 12/03/2006 10:20:12 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Petronski
Geegee, in English slang, means a race horse. At least THEY have something they can do..............race; though only one horse ever wins ( comes in first ) each race. :-)

Oh, he has a "trick".......posting garbage. LOL

305 posted on 12/03/2006 10:22:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: GodGunsGuts
You want me to "apologize" to you, because a lot of what you post comes from the deep regions of your delusional brain, as well as from goldbug shills?
306 posted on 12/03/2006 10:24:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

People who think for themselves are always ridiculed by people who run in packs. You are in over your head, and you don't even know it. Do yourself a favor and move on to shallower posts. It sure beats trying to breath water.


307 posted on 12/03/2006 10:35:34 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
People who think for themselves are always ridiculed by people who run in packs.

Quite the opposite, actually. Those of us using real educations to think for ourselves are laughing at those of you who run in the cultish goldbug pack.

308 posted on 12/03/2006 10:39:16 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Poor illiterate 0TGigi.


309 posted on 12/03/2006 10:40:48 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
tsk,tsk,tsk.....this from a guy who had been dabbling for only five short years, buying gold and gold stocks with money borrowed on credit cards, on FIVE PERCENT MARGIN, bu has NO idea what "bid" and "ask" mean, and imagines that bond traders are idiots. LOL

If you truly "thought for yourself", then you wouldn't fall for all this goldbuggery.

What's your day job? Do you even have one? And what exactly did you used to do, that made you so involved with gangbangers? You did drop that bit of info, a while back and never did explain it, nor what relevance it has to buying gold in the hopes that someday it will reach $1650 an ounce.

310 posted on 12/03/2006 10:42:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

The poor simpleminded fool still doesn't realize that his shabby position will ALWAYS be associated with the label "goldbuggery" on FR, and goldbuggering sales pitches will never fly here without a clear label of the deception involved.


311 posted on 12/03/2006 10:43:24 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Petronski

He's the one who is drowning.


312 posted on 12/03/2006 10:43:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Petronski
I see you are still doing what you do best.


313 posted on 12/03/2006 10:43:30 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: nopardons
What's your day job? Do you even have one?

He's a performance artist.

314 posted on 12/03/2006 10:44:28 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Petronski

I doubt he'll last as long as the old goldbugs....at least they never claimed that gold was going to hit $1650 an ounce SOON.


315 posted on 12/03/2006 10:45:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: GodGunsGuts

Feeding you your own medicine is the easiest way.



Poor illiterate 0TGigi.


316 posted on 12/03/2006 10:45:21 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Petronski

And NOT a very one one.


317 posted on 12/03/2006 10:45:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Angels with magnets....special magnets that attract non-magnetic metals.



ROTFLMAO


318 posted on 12/03/2006 10:46:14 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: nopardons
And NOT a very good one.

Nope. It's pathetic, actually.

319 posted on 12/03/2006 10:47:21 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Petronski
ROTFLMSOPIMP

I want me one of them magnets. :-)

320 posted on 12/03/2006 10:48:51 PM PST by nopardons
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