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Russia's Interest in Litvinenko
stratfor.com ^ | November 29, 2006 | George Friedman

Posted on 11/29/2006 6:03:31 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Andropov realized in the early 1980s that the Soviet economy was failing and that, with economic failure, it would collapse. Andropov knew that the exploitation of Western innovation had always been vital to the Soviet economy. ...

Andropov engineered a new concept. If the Soviet Union was to survive, it had to forge a new relationship with the West. ...

The Andropov doctrine argued that the Soviet Union could not survive if it did not end, or at least mitigate, the Cold War. Furthermore, if it was to entice Western investment and utilize that investment efficiently, it needed to do two things. First, there had to be a restructuring of the Soviet economy (perestroika). Second, the Soviet system had to be opened to accept innovation (glasnost). ...

Gorbachev was clearly perceived by the West as a reformer, which he certainly was. But less clear to the West were his motives for reform. He was in favor of glasnost and perestroika, but not because he rejected the Soviet system. Rather, Gorbachev embraced these because, like the KGB, he was desperately trying to save the system. ...

As a young KGB operative, Vladimir Putin was a follower of Andropov. Like Andropov, Putin was committed to the restructuring of the Soviet Union in order to save it. He was a foot soldier in that process. ...

...if a former intelligence officer could betray the organs of the state and sit in London hurling insults at Putin, the FSB and Russia... For a KGB man trained by Andropov, this would show how far Russia had fallen. Something would have to be done about it. Litvinenko's death, seen from this standpoint, was a necessary and inevitable step if Putin's new strategy to save the Russian state is to have meaning.

(Excerpt) Read more at stratfor.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; communismlives; conspiracy; geopolitics; litvinenko; russia

1 posted on 11/29/2006 6:03:32 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Putin really has his own agenda and it is not a good one. Harming people in sovreign nations is a risky business and Putin has gone too far.


2 posted on 11/29/2006 6:07:10 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

No one will ever track a clear link to Putin, even though it is obvious what common sense bellows. The CIA, MI5, Mossad, the new version of the KGB, break untold laws every single day, most going undetected or unprovable. This case is particularly interesting because it has left radioactive bread crumbs from the exotic poisoning to be tracked. Doubt this technique is ever used again. The Western media has locked into it like a pitbull, but then again, the Russians may enjoy this - everyone knows they did it, and are powerless to do a damned thing about it. The Russians are enjoying the cheaply purchased display of power that can serve as a warning to those in former Russian republics. Even bad press is good if you're getting your message across.


3 posted on 11/29/2006 6:26:18 PM PST by Sax
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So basically what they are saying is that the USSR was never really a communist dictatorship, but was instead a failing monopoly.

Perestroika and Glasnost amounted to nothing more than declaring Chapter 11 and being restructured.

But in order for the cycle not to repeat they need to remain open to western ideas and western technology.

Either that or they will have to declare bankruptcy again in order to catch back up to the free market democracies.

4 posted on 11/29/2006 6:36:30 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Tailgunner Joe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1746057/posts

Post #8 Stratfor report in its entirety..


5 posted on 11/29/2006 6:45:33 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I do not think Putin was behind this, there is very a little profit in it and huge potential for loss. What it does exemplify is a very disturbing trend of intellegince agencies deliberately acting without the authority of their soverign government. This is true of the CIA, Pakistanni Intelegence, the new KGB, etc. etc.


6 posted on 11/29/2006 7:10:20 PM PST by CyberSpartacus
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all we need is $20 oil again and Russia will fold again - along with lots of terrorist groups too


7 posted on 11/29/2006 7:30:57 PM PST by spanalot
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To: Sax
My fearless prediction:

Whoever was sitting in those airline seats is Russian. He is back in Russia today.

He will simply disappear. He is walking dead. But because he is in Russia, no one will ever know what happened. He will just disappear.

Every airline aircraft has a log. From that log, our guys already know every trip made and the exact times of departure and arrival. Already, our guys know who did it. All they have to do is get the seat number that those two guys sat in that visited Britain to see L.

If that is the contaminated seat: Bingo!!

That is so easy to do that you can bet it has already been done. They just have not announced their findings. The only curve ball would be if they used a "mule" to carry the stuff, but that is not likely since the fewer in on a killing the better.

So the guy disappears and Putin goes on with life.
8 posted on 11/29/2006 7:36:28 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: woodbutcher
Whoever was sitting in those airline seats is Russian. He is back in Russia today.

So the guy disappears and Putin goes on with life.


The Russian SVR isn't quite as simple as that. If they were going to bring the poison into the country they would have done it in a diplomatic pouch, and it would have been absolutely untraceable. Berezovsky has outdone himself this time.
9 posted on 11/29/2006 9:07:54 PM PST by GarySpFc
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Andropov would be very proud of one of his former pupils, today's Kremlin boss.

10 posted on 11/29/2006 10:04:09 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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As a young KGB operative, Vladimir Putin was a follower of Andropov. Like Andropov, Putin was committed to the restructuring of the Soviet Union in order to save it. He was a foot soldier in that process. ... ==

The author indeed has teh imgination. But it would be interesting to see how he PROVES his alleragions.


11 posted on 11/30/2006 2:11:40 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: spanalot

all we need is $20 oil again and Russia will fold again - along with lots of terrorist groups too==

Why not $10 or even $1. Dreams:) Wet dreams:)


12 posted on 11/30/2006 2:13:25 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: CyberSpartacus

bs - then why has putie not demanded all out prosecutions for the dozens of dead journalists.


13 posted on 11/30/2006 3:48:33 PM PST by spanalot
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To: CyberSpartacus

bs - then why has putie not demanded all out prosecutions for the dozens of dead journalists.


14 posted on 11/30/2006 3:48:38 PM PST by spanalot
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To: woodbutcher

Do you think airplane logs are 100% accurate?


15 posted on 11/30/2006 3:54:43 PM PST by petitfour
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To: petitfour

It is my belief that irline aircraft logs are.

Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

By the way, I will modify my post slightly.

I had no idea more than three aircraft were found to be contaminated.

This tells me that there are a lot more Putin critics that should be very careful where and what they eat.



16 posted on 11/30/2006 4:40:21 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: GarySpFc

Unless the diplomatic branch was not to be trusted with the knowledge.


17 posted on 11/30/2006 4:43:19 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Premium subscription required ...


18 posted on 12/01/2006 7:41:27 AM PST by sono ("Improvise, Adapt, Overcome" - Gunnery Sgt Thomas "Gunny" Highway)
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