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We Must Alter Soc Sec, Rangel Says (Cut Benefits, Raise Retirement Age)
New York Daily News ^ | November 29, 2006 | Celeste Katz

Posted on 11/29/2006 2:38:22 PM PST by RWR8189

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To: RWR8189
Amazing what having a friendly media enables them to get away with. I bet I can find some Rangle quotes from a couple years back calling Bush a liar for stating SS needed to be fixed.

Bend over America, here they come for your wallet.
201 posted on 11/29/2006 6:28:03 PM PST by PogySailor (Media bias? What media bias)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Just gimme back what i put in, with interest, and I'll walk away from it forever.

Just let me go. They can keep what they have taken I am even willing to let them continue to receive half of what I would pay so they can continue to pay out to those who are on SS already or with in 15 years of retirement.

But let me go.

202 posted on 11/29/2006 6:47:01 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Those who call their fellow citizens Sheeple are just ticked they were not chosen as Shepherds)
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To: RWR8189; Lazamataz; Dane; hnj_00; skimask; Brad Cloven; Sunsong; Westbrook; ...
53 Senators vote to raid the Social Security trust fund

53 Senators vote to raid the Social Security trust fund

49-4 guess which party is 49

203 posted on 11/29/2006 7:35:27 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

Thanks, all this stuff is so helpful!


204 posted on 11/29/2006 7:53:50 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: kabar
"They could be covered by a temporary tax increase."
Nothing is more permanent than the temporary tax increases. Don't you know that bunch? Imagine this Rangel doing a "temporary" tax increase.... yuck!
205 posted on 11/29/2006 8:10:25 PM PST by GSlob
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To: RWR8189

But when Bush tried to fix Soc Sec the Dems said their were no problems.


206 posted on 11/29/2006 8:26:20 PM PST by art_rocks
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To: RWR8189

Wait - this sounds a lot like what Bush suggested last year. He got killed for it (by Democrats).


207 posted on 11/29/2006 8:28:00 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia; operation clinton cleanup
Constitution prohibits Pres and VP from same state.

12th Amendment: The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;...

This is a common mistake. The Constitution forbids electors from voting for Pres & VP from their state. If the two candidates came from a small state, it would make little difference. Coming from a big state like NY means that it would not happen as a practical matter. Either the electors would not vote for the VP candidate, or some would vote for the Pres. candidate and others for the VP candidate, which would be risky in a close election. But there is no flat Constitutional prohibition.

208 posted on 11/29/2006 8:33:20 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I went down in 1964 for Barry Goldwater with all flags flying! This is just a blip!)
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To: mountn man
Hi "mountn man"!

This is completely predictable. The only one who surprises me is Lugar.

Nancee

209 posted on 11/29/2006 8:52:36 PM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: GSlob

You have to cover the transition costs to get to private accounts. It would be a quid pro quo. Properly written legislation could tie the two together. The other alternative is to borrow more money publicly to cover the costs.


210 posted on 11/29/2006 9:00:26 PM PST by kabar
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To: slowhand520; RWR8189; babble-on

Wrangle wants all the bad stuff done under the label of Administration of George W. Bush. Then he can flog our candidates with it in 2008. Just remember, with 'Rats, facts don't matter.


211 posted on 11/29/2006 9:10:58 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: kabar

well, this way or that way - it is still a mess. The best what could be imagined [and what alone would justify the costs] would be abolishing it altogether, transferring the SS disability insurance function to a separate insurance entity, preferably private, and trying to sort out the existing and past contributors.


212 posted on 11/29/2006 9:11:45 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

Whatever is done will have to be phased in. 48 million Americans receive Social Security benefits, including 33 million retirees, 7 million survivors, and 8 million disabled workers.


213 posted on 11/29/2006 9:22:16 PM PST by kabar
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To: Hendrix; meyer; StockAyatollah; Myrddin; All

Yup. I was wrong.

It was a comment made from ignorance, and boy are you Freepers educating me.


214 posted on 11/30/2006 8:00:01 AM PST by airborne (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Jesus is the reason for the season!!)
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