Posted on 11/29/2006 11:14:22 AM PST by lifelong_republican
"...These machines must go. There is no way to know if one's vote is accurately accounted for..."
(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...
I'm sure you would have avoided an empty attempt at a personal attack if you'd had the fortitude to consider the actual subject. I encourage you to learn more about the many ways electronic 'voting' systems involve vulnerability, unreliability, and excessive expense.
The statements being offered to you are easily confirmed, and if you would like assistance with recommendations for search engine use and specific links, I'll be happy to do whatever I can to assist you with this.
""Duh!" (Nice to see someone else with a grasp of the obvious.)"
Thank you for this information, which I will remember.
It is not only possible to make elections work, so that the public can scrutinize the accurate counts of voter generated and verified tangilbe ballots, it's what we owe our legacy as American citizens.
the strategy isNOT to have inviolable electios, but to have a handle upon challenging their outcome when they don't go your way.
both sides do this.
"OK let's re-vote"
I agree. This time, with real physical ballots prepared directly by the voters and constantly observed throughout the public counting processes. It would be a lot harder for the corrupt Democrats of the Rendell mob in Pennsylvania to steal votes from Senator Santorum.
If you would do at least a little investigation using the web, for example, you would be able to find out about the massive increases in undervote rates, the reports from voters of seeing their choices changed, and the lawsuits and other actions resulting from thousands of votes being lost by failures of election equipment. To make it even easier for you, I can provide you with data specific to your (or any other) state, if you like. Let me know. Thanks.
If you're ready to get started now, use this link:
http://www.votersunite.org/info/previousmessups.asp
Perhaps you approve of the way the corrupt Democrats in Pennsylvania robbed Senator Santorum of votes, but we as Republicans here in PA are unwilling to accept it.
The Democrats had their "buttons" switching votes from Santorum to Casey this past election, so I don't see how your statement would be applicable.
Thank you for the welcome. It's appreciated. I have been quoted in my local newspaper, and as a Republican, but I haven't called in to Rush's show since his oxycontin episode. I realize it's a health problem but I don't want to attempt communication through certain impairments.
You make an interesting point about the ATMS. They have side-mounted switches rather than touchscreens in the newer ones, and they all have a printed receipt system, and they all function with a separate independently-auditable permanent record system consisting of checks, currency, deposit slips, and such.
The 'voting' systems are vastly inferior to the ATMs.
Undervote rates in my small rural county soard from 700-800 before the electronics to 4,000-5,000 immediately after the electronics were installed.
The corrupt Democrats who are responsible for losing all these votes invariably try to blame the voters.
As if people really go to all the trouble of travelling to the polls only to refuse to vote at all.
"Undermine the integrity of the vote and we have nothing."
Thank you. You understand. It's truly appreciated (even by Steeler fans).
I hope you will participate with something valid and pertinent. Thank you for your interest in this thread.
No one claims that paper systems would be infallible, but the fact remains that it is a lot easier to manipulate votes and hide that fact with the electronics.
Well the corrupt Democrats of the Rendell mob in Pennsylvania have made a paper trail 'illegal' here. The systems can't be made good enough to match what is possible with voter-created, voter-verified tangible ballots subjected to supervised hand-counts.
Diebold is only one of several vendors of the exhorbitantly expensive and unsuitable 'voting' systems. Other sellers include ES&S, Sequoia, and Danaher. The problems exposed with the Diebold systems are real, but not limited to that particular product line.
I'm not so sure about that. Any old moonbat can alter or discard a paper ballot. It takes a special talent to tamper with electronic voting machines and get the desired result.
Actually, the corrupt Democrats here won't need illegal aliens voting (there aren't many in PA where I live). They can throw elections with ease just by tampering with the counts and with the electronics, they can avoid detection.
Purple fingers are one thing, but manipulation of electronic systems so that votes for Senator Santorum get switched to his opponent isn't acceptable at all.
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